Xref: utzoo alt.bbs:956 comp.sys.mac:40809 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!psueea!qiclab!m2xenix!lisa From: lisa@m2xenix.UUCP (Lisa Gronke) Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: EchoMAC Message-ID: <421@m2xenix.UUCP> Date: 22 Oct 89 22:41:11 GMT References: <1559@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> Reply-To: lisa@m2xenix.UUCP (Lisa Gronke) Followup-To: alt.bbs Distribution: usa Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US Lines: 88 In article <1559@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> ralph@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (Ralph Brandi) writes: > >Anybody got any suggestions where I can find a list of sites >involved in EchoMAC, the Fido Macintosh Echo? Thanks. > I don't know of a good way to get a complete, up-to-date list of the FidoNet systems that "get" a particular Echo. My technique is to find one system that carries it and then look at the Origin lines on the messages. Or you can look at the SEEN-BYs on a number of messages from different parts of the country and try to put together a map. Or you can send FidoNet mail to the moderator (who should have a pretty good idea). There is a file called something like ELIST.ARC which should give the moderator's name and may also contain a list of nodes that get the Echo (though I have my doubts about how up to date that information is for a backbone Echo). ECHOMAC is particularly fluid right now because many new systems using TABBY are joining FidoNet and subscribing to ECHOMAC. ECHOMAC is a VERY active Echo (one of the top ten in terms of message traffic). Systems that carry it fall into these categories: o Macintosh oriented BBS running conventional FidoNet BBS software on IBM hardware. A number of these run multi-line TBBS systems. o Non-Macintosh oriented BBS running conventional FidoNet BBS software who just happen to carry ECHOMAC (some of these may be *EC systems who make it available to dialup callers because they have to carry in anyway.) o TABBY BBS running Mansion, RRH or WWIV-Mac software on Macintosh hardware. These are always Macintosh oriented BBS, but using EchoMail is a little more kludgy than using it on a "native" FidoNet system. If you are going to make a LD call specifically to read ECHOMAC, you might as well try for a multi-line IBM based system. I do know about Portland, OR, because I maintain the BBS list for the area. Although the SEEN-BYs show 105/3 27 48 68 69 300 449 469 496, the only system that has ECHOMAC available for users is: MacSystem TBBS (FidoNet 1:105/449) (503) 667-3670 300/1200/2400 bps 24 Hours (503) 667-5711 300/1200/2400/HST bps 24 Hours All of the other nodes listed in the SEEN-BYs are HUBS involved in the distribution. 1:105/496 MIGHT make it available for users [BagDad Cafe II, (503) 669-7395, 300/1200/2400/HST, 6 AM - 2 AM, single line, QuickBBS]. Portland is a PC Pursuit outdial (ORPOR) city. Note that the EchoMac Moderator seems to be a Point Operator (not in the FidoNet nodelist) ... so questions will have to be sent by FidoNet (or UFgate) mail. Also [for the person who was asking about Macintosh BBS in Berkeley] notice the second entry. The BMUG BBS is a multi-line TBBS system. BMUG is a very active Macintosh group and folks there will undoubtedly know about other Mac BBS in the Berkeley area. Sysop is Raines Cohen and the system is a UFgate (bmug.fidonet.org). There is some sort of local networking with another Macintosh BBS in Palo Alto (mailcom.fidonet.org, sysop Bernard Aboba, FidoNet 1:204/444). * Origin: EchoMac Moderator moving to Atlanta, GA (1:109/411.105) * Origin: The BMUG BBS - home of MUGADMIN - Berkeley, CA (1:161/444) * Origin: Bob's Mac [215] 446-7670 Drexel Hill, PA (1:273/402) * Origin: Uplink Rochester -- Rochester, New York (1:260/228) * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.1M - HST/V.32 - 2 Lines - 201-486-2956 (107/332) * Origin: EEE's BBS Clifton,NJ 201-340-3531 RRH/HST/MAC (1:107/563) * Origin: =>The Bear's Lair, Van Nuys, CA (818) 988-6694<= (1:102/823) * Origin: The Manhattan Transfer (213) 372-4800 (1:102/135) * Origin: Metro Area M.U.G. (HST/RRH) Bronx, NY 212-597-9083 (1:107/705) * Origin: Aurora Borealis (BMG) 614-471-6209, Gahanna, OH - RRH*HST * Origin: Conus BBS - St. Paul, MN (612) 642-4629 (1:282/24) * Origin: now a Macintosh can do the QMX/XRS thing (1:282/22.4) * Origin: Systems Support Group,Carbondale,IL (618) 549-1129 (1:288/528) * Origin: The Zoo System @(515) 279-3073 D.M.Iowa WWIV/Mac* (1:290/2) * Origin: MacScience! San Jose, Ca. 408-866-4933 HST/RRH (1:143/36) * Origin: amTECH MultiLine 80386 Based, Montreal Line:3 (1:167/143) This is a collection of SEEN-BY data for ECHOMAC. You need to have access to a FidoNet nodelist to get phone numbers and locations for these nodes. SEEN-BY: 13/13 19/3 386 102/135 823 105/3 27 48 68 69 300 449 469 496 107/3 323 332 563 705 3000 6000 109/20 40 411 124/306 2124 4115 4210 4216 5211 125/444 130/12 24 143/36 143 147/7 20 153/2 160/103 161/84 148 444 167/136 143 170/400 203/1 204/204 226/10 20 200 260/204 228 265/3 7 273/1 402 282/3 24 290/627 343/300 381/30 390/1 396/1 714/407 I know there are many systems missing from the list above (my 15 minute non-subscriber timelimit ran out on MacSystem TBBS). Inquire again if you can't get what you need from the above.