Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Red Ryder 11.0 Announcement Keywords: white knight Message-ID: <35941@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 26 Oct 89 15:57:25 GMT References: <829@pmafire.UUCP> <1866@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US> Distribution: usa Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 37 >However, now that everyone is voicing their opinion on this matter, I must >say that any commercial use of the newsgroup should be totally banned. How do you plan on implementing this? Bans are great -- but without enforcement, they're effectively worthless. (Hint: in ten years of hacking usenet, we've never come up with an enforcement mechanism. Good luck). Best thing we have -- and it generally works quite well -- is peer pressure. If something steps over the line, enough people bitch so it doesn't happen again. >If the software vendors keep track of its registered users, they can (and >should) send upgrade info directly to the registered users only! Many do. But something like 20% of the homes in america move every year. When you move, do you write and tell every company you've registered software from that you've moved? Did yo send in the card in the first place? A mailing list can be counted on to be about 18% obsolete after 12 months, and about 25% obsolete after 18 months -- not to mention that only about 3 in 10 people turn in the registration cards in the first place. It's not just the developers fault the mailings don't get out. That's why these things need to be distributed. These occurances are really rare. If you want to scream about commercial use of the net, scream about the growing tendency of places like comp.sys.mac to be used for classified ads. There are *lots* more of those than there are postings of things like White Knight. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking] Trust Mama Nature to remind us just how important things like sci.aquaria's name really is in the scheme of things.