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From: rock%warp@Sun.COM (Bill Petro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Red Ryder 11.0 Announcement
Message-ID: <126887@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: 26 Oct 89 20:59:09 GMT
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6sigma@polari.UUCP (Brian Matthews) writes:

>In article <987@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> ngg@bridge2.3Com.com (Norman Goodger) writes:
>|In article <31019@news.Think.COM> barmar@kulla (Barry Margolin) writes:
>|>Hmm, this is at least the THIRD posting of the White Knight 11.0
>|>announcement I've seen.
>[...]
>|So I will wait a couple weeks before posting the annoncement
>|again. I don't want to re-post it to be a pain or use net bandwidth, just
>|to make sure that the largest number of users can locate and read the
>|information and upgrade if they wish to.

>Now wait a sec.  I didn't mind one posting on the upgrade.  Red Ryder
>is a good product and White Knight certainly looks like it will be even
>better, and undoubtedly many people who read comp.sys.mac use Red Ryder
>and will want to upgrade.

>However, the upgrade announcement is unquestionably a commercial
>announcement.  White Knight is a commercial product.  I think one
>such posting is enough, and would certainly be less than happy to see
>more than the three I've already seen.

Gentlefolk,
Let us all cool our jets.  Norm had no nefarius motives in posting the
announcement about a program that allows people to do things like read
this newsgroup from home :-)  Why did it show up more than once?
Because there are a lot of RR (WK to be) users out there, and they can 
be zealous.  Indeed, I saw the notice on a BBS before I saw it here and
was going to post it myself, but decided to wait a few days.  Let us not
deprecate zealousness.  That's why all of us Mac-ers are here anyway.

As far as Norm's comments about a problem with the limits of the news
reading software, this can be remedied by using another newsreader.
Many (most?) readers I imagine are using rn, which displays articles by
number.  I use nn (yet another news reader, "no news is good news")
that allows the reader to sort the articles by subject, age, or
arrival.  There are features in other GNU news readers (gnus, gnews)
that allow many fancy manipulations.  There are other newsgroups for
this kind of discussions, and I don't wish to belabor the point, but
using another news reader like nn could cut down on the thermal
epistleary exchanges.  Or increase it, since nn allows you to get
through much more news, faster!  It is available via anonymous ftp from
freja.diku.dk.  (Gee, I hope that wasn't a plug, but it wasn't a
commercial application after all :-)


     Bill Petro  {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock
"UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven"  Matthew 19:12