Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!monsoon.Berkeley.EDU!dubman From: dubman@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan Dubman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Getting machines to students Keywords: slow costly inefficient Message-ID: <1989Oct25.042130.13037@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 25 Oct 89 04:21:30 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator;;;;ZU44) Organization: ucb Lines: 52 I think NeXT is the best-run computer manufacturer in the U.S., but the method of getting machines to students appears slow and chaotic. Over a year past the introduction of a machine targeted at academia, I can't buy one at one of the largest academic institutions in the world. However, I am allowed to drive to UC Davis, where delivery supposedly takes 30 days and there is, I believe, a 15% fee, which exceeds the price of a Mac Plus at our local academic outlet. With tax, this brings the price of the entry-level machine to over eight thousand dollars. Reportedly UC Davis has sold but ten machines over the past year. With those terms, I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, with these exclusive distribution agreements we don't have the advantages of competition. It is a struggle for most students to come up with $6500, so a 15% fee cuts into sales and yet generates no extra revenue for NeXT. And thirty days is a long time. If I were running sales, I wouldn't be pleased with anything but immediate pickup in the usual case, and a week in the extreme. If the normal distribution channels can't live up to that standard, they need to be replaced or supplemented with direct sales. Q: If I walk into a Businessland with a Cashier's check for the amount of the machine, how long does it take before I have it on my desk? I'll bet it's less than thirty days. And what do they pay for it themselves? PROPOSAL: Maybe an agreement could be reached with Businessland whereby students offer proof of school registration and Businessland gets a $3500 or so rebate. Maybe Businessland needs to charge a $500 fee for support, but at least students will know what to expect and we won't have these large price discrepancies between schools. If a school is capable of offering the machine at a reduced fee or more quickly or with better support, so be it, but the student - especially those at smaller schools - should have the option of going to a retail outlet. This means that Businessland might have a bunch of poorly-dressed knapsack-bearing long-haired students coming into their respectable establishment, but I'd be willing to dress for the occasion if I could get my hands on a machine. :-) What do you think? As I and many other students are future developers, it would be prudent for NeXT to reevaluate its academic distribution policy without delay. On a positive note, I think the decision to include a 40Mb SCSI drive with all OD-only machines is highly commendable, as it reduces the entry cost of a usable system by $2000. For college students, entry cost is the key. If I had my machine right now, I'd be able to write about more substantive issues. I'm a big proponent of the machine; my complaints with NeXT are confined to this issue. Jonathan Dubman UC Berkeley