Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!unido!nadia!ncc1701!space From: space@ncc1701.UUCP (Lars Soltau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Getting machines to students Summary: Think of European Students, too! Message-ID: <223@ncc1701.UUCP> Date: 27 Oct 89 22:12:31 GMT References: <1989Oct25.042130.13037@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: uhura@ncc1701.UUCP Reply-To: ncc1701!space@nadia.UUCP (Lars Soltau) Organization: United Federation of Planets Lines: 49 In article <1989Oct25.042130.13037@agate.berkeley.edu> dubman@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan Dubman) writes: > >I think NeXT is the best-run computer manufacturer in the U.S., but the >method of getting machines to students appears slow and chaotic. If you in the U.S. are complaining, what should we poor outsiders in Europe say? >Over a year past the introduction of a machine targeted at academia, I can't >buy one at one of the largest academic institutions in the world. However, I >am allowed to drive to UC Davis, where delivery supposedly takes 30 days and >there is, I believe, a 15% fee, which exceeds the price of a Mac Plus at our >local academic outlet. With tax, this brings the price of the entry-level >machine to over eight thousand dollars. Reportedly UC Davis has sold but ten >machines over the past year. With those terms, I'm not surprised. If I'd had the opportunity to get a NeXT at those conditions, I'd have bought one long ago. At least you CAN buy one! >PROPOSAL: >Maybe an agreement could be reached with Businessland whereby students offer >proof of school registration and Businessland gets a $3500 or so rebate. Hear, hear! Extend this offer to students all over the world, I say! >As I and many other students are future developers, it would be prudent for >NeXT to reevaluate its academic distribution policy without delay. Oh boy, how true this sounds! >If I had my machine right now, I'd be able to write about more substantive >issues. I'm a big proponent of the machine; my complaints with NeXT are >confined to this issue. I very much wonder whether it is arrogance or only negligence which has kept NeXT from extending its academic program to universities outside the US. All I keep hearing when I ask about a NeXT in Germany is "maybe next year, around June!". Hey, next year around June a NeXT isn't that hot technology any more. If NeXT wants to make sales on foreign markets, it has to provide foreign developers with machines. Since I now have decided to get a UNIX workstation, I could get all of this off my chest. I've wanted to yell this out for quite some time, but I still kept hoping "maybe I will get in touch with NeXT". Fat chance. My mail didn't even get a reply. -- Lars Soltau bang: ...uunet!unido!nadia!ncc1701!space BIX: --no bucks-- smart: ncc1701!space@nadia.UUCP