Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!cica!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcce!ncrons!johnson From: johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: modem programs for Unix Message-ID: <116@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM> Date: 25 Oct 89 14:54:31 GMT References: <1053@faatcrl.UUCP> <216100016@s.cs.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) Organization: NCR Comten, St Paul Lines: 93 In article rowe@cme.nist.gov (Walter Rowe) writes: >I don't know the details on obtaining it, but I have used Kermit for a >number of years now. It runs on VMS, UNIX, MS-DOS, and tons of other >architectures. Does anyone out there know if its ftp'able from CMU? From the Kermit distribution file aanetw.hlp: Effective August 18, 1988, the Kermit files are available on host CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a VAX 8700 running UNIX (Ultrix). The IP host number is 128.59.40.130. You may get files from it with anonymous FTP. The Kermit files are in directories kermit/a, kermit/b, kermit/c, kermit/d, and kermit/e. You can also send mail to Info-Kermit and Info-Kermit-Request at this address. The process is roughly like this: FTP to CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, login anonymous (lowercase only), any password (we prefer that you use "user@host" for the password, specifying your userid and hostname, for our statistics), and then CWD (or CD) to kermit, which contains a file read.me, which you should read. Then CWD (or CD) to a, b, c, d, or e and GET or MULTIPLE GET (or MGET) the files you want. Note that file names are lowercase, and you must refer to them that way on CUNIXC, even though all the Kermit documentation lists the filenames in uppercase! Since CUNIXC is a heavily-used machine, please try not to FTP files from it during peak hours. There are presently no formal restrictions, so please don't overburden the system. If the response is very slow, cancel your session and try again later. As of April 1987, you may also access the same set of files, in the same way, on a new host, watsun.cc.columbia.edu, IP host number 128.59.40.130. Response time from watsun should be better than cunixc in most cases. At some time in the future, cunixc Kermit file access will be phased out in favor of watsun. You can also access kermit files care/of Oklahoma State via anon UUCP: ----- UUCP Login information ----- Site Name : okstate Phone number : (405) 744-6953 Login name : uucpker Password : thefrog Hours : 24 hours per day, 7 days a week Problem : okstate!uucp-support (UUCP) reports : uucp-support@a.cs.okstate.edu (Internet) The phone number is for 300/1200/2400 baud (bell 103/212a/2224 compatible). The following is a sample L.sys line (\r is a carriage return). You might want to put a time restriction on "Any", such as Any0000-0800 to save on your phone bills. okstate Any ACU 2400 405-744-6953 "" \r ogin: uucpker word: thefrog Just a few notes on how to best retrieve parts of the Kermit distribution using UUCP... - Install the proper L.sys entry and test it using the debugging option of UUCICO (-x4). Repeat this step until you successfully complete a "no work" connection, this will verify that your L.sys entry is correct and will minimize frazzled nerves. - Retrieve the files `aaaread.me' and `aafiles.dir' with the following commands: uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me /usr/spool/uucppublic uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.a uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.b uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-c/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.c uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-d/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.d uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-e/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.e You will have to escape the exclamation point and the tilde if you are using the C shell (i.e. ...okstate\!\~uucp/kermit-a...). - Choose the versions of Kermit that you wish to transfer and issue the proper UUCP command. Some systems don't seem to like wildcards, but in any case the wildcards will have to be escaped from your shell. The following command would retrieve the files relating to C-Kermit: uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF /usr/spool/uucppublic! Unless you *really* understand how UUCP's protections work you should not change this! A number of people have queued >100 files and had their systems refuse to store them in out of the way places. This results in wasted phone time! I can give you more information if you need help. -- Wayne Johnson (Voice) 612-638-7665 NCR Comten, Inc. (E-MAIL) W.Johnson@StPaul.NCR.COM or Roseville MN 55113 johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM These opinions (or spelling) do not necessarily reflect those of NCR Comten.