Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!usc!apple!sun-barr!ames!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Pronunciations (was: And how do you pronounce "csh"?) Message-ID: <5267@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 28 Oct 89 15:38:15 GMT References: <2556@munnari.oz.au> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 27 From article <2556@munnari.oz.au>, by ok@cs.mu.oz.au (Richard O'Keefe): " ... (The first syllable of "character" does __not__ sound like "care".) That's true for some English dialects but false for many others. In my speech, the first syllable of "character" is "char-" and does sound exactly like "care". " It's worth pointing out that most of the abbreviated keywords in C ('char' " is not a UNIX command, it's a C keyword) are not the first syllables of " their words or not a whole number of syllables of their words. " cha-rac-ter " struc-ture " in-te-ger " (type)de-fine " ex-ter-nal " e-nu-mer-ate " con-stant Except for the case of "de-fine", I believe that these observations are all incorrect for most varieties of American English. The evidence is indirect for most of the cases and would take a while to discuss, but for the first one, note that "r" is pronounced with lip-rounding when it is at the beginning of a syllable, without rounding when it is at the end (most Am. dialects), and in "character" the first "r" is not rounded. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu