Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!amdahl!pacbell!att!laidbak!elaited!daveb From: daveb@elaited.i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: dosread.c again Message-ID: <1989Oct23.185242.22664@i88.isc.com> Date: 23 Oct 89 18:52:42 GMT References: <3717@ast.cs.vu.nl> <3a18.2536ede8@ibmpcug.co.uk> <3721@ast.cs.vu.nl> <6627@ficc.uu.net> <9830@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> Sender: usenet@i88.isc.com (Usenet News) Reply-To: daveb@i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL Lines: 42 In article <9830@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> chasm@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Charles Marslett) writes: |If you can mention a single real alternative to DOS on an 80x86 machine |that qualifies (even being rather liberal and ignoring the cost of application |programs) as low cost, I'll shut up and go along with this (%censored%). Then goes on to discount several possible alternatives: |Minix [is not commercial quality]. |DRDOS has most of the drawbacks of MSDOS, and a few extra. |Xenix costs more than the machine I run it on ... |Interactive Unix is even more (and runs only on a 386). |VM/386 is likewise nice, but not cheap ... Then asks: |And I cannot waste the netwidth for a complete list, so I'll just ask: |what is a worthwhile alternative?? I run ESIX, which is a full SVR3.2 UNIX, with a complete development environment (including X.11.3) that puts anything on MSDOS to shame, and spent a total of $395.00 for it. (I believe it's a bit more expensive now - $595? - but it's still inexpensive). I used to run uPort UNIX SVR5.2 on a PC/AT, and if memory serves, I paid $545 for the complete development system, with most/all? the DWB. For MSDOS I paid (once upon a time): MSDOS 3.3 75 Microsoft C 4.0 400 MKS Toolkit 100 Polytron Make 80 --- 655 and I didn't have any form of source code control, parser generator(s), languages other than C,ksh,awk (the last two from the Toolkit), document preparation tools, windowing/multitasking capabilities, communications, or many other useful - arguably necessary - tools. I think the inexpensive argument is a bit weak. DOS, while on the whole cheaper than *IX, is still not inexpensive. Windows requires at least a 286, really a 386. And what about OS/2? (*Rhetorical only!!*) -- Dave Burton uunet!ism780c!laidbak!daveb