Xref: utzoo news.groups:13824 news.admin:7398 news.misc:3761 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ulysses!smb From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin,news.misc Subject: Re: Important announcement Keywords: stuff Message-ID: <12344@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Date: 31 Oct 89 17:41:24 GMT References: <21593@gryphon.COM> <6037@tank.uchicago.edu> <8122@asylum.SF.CA.US> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 24 I've said this before, and I may as well repeat it. Back when we created netnews, we knew there was no possibility of real security short of usable, deployed, public-key cryptosystems or digital signature schemes. Our solution was simple: we didn't put in any control capabilities. Later generations of netnews deities have seen fit to reverse that decision, with consequences we can all see. There is, and can be, no protection against forged articles in a network based on UUCP and (standard) TCP/IP. When RFC 111[345]-compliant mail systems become available, it may be possible to change all that, if the legal minefied can be navigated. Until then, I suggest that you take any articles with a grain of salt. Btw, the optimization that the netnews software uses to avoid wasting bandwidth -- not sending an article to a host in the Path: line -- was designed for environments where bandwidth was (a) limited (we started with 300 bps modems...), and (b) expensive (it was a toll call from UNC to Duke.) Folks who don't operate with those restrictions may want to consider removing that code. --Steve Bellovin att!ulysses!smb, smb@ulysses.att.com