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From: jmi@devsim.mdcbbs.com ((JM Ivler) MDC - Douglas Aircraft Co. Long Beach, CA.)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Modem overload - Enuf is Enuf
Message-ID: <444.25449b5b@devsim.mdcbbs.com>
Date: 24 Oct 89 17:26:51 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA
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Enuf is Enuf.

From my understanding of the rules the following happens:

1) Topic is seggested and opened for discussion
2) Discussion commences and continues for a set period of time
3) Discussion ends
4) Topic is opened for a vote
5) Vote is taken by use of "E-MAIL" (read private)
6) Vote period ends
7) Vote results are announced with a listing of all who voted

pass = create the topic/newsgroup
fail = don't create the topic/newsgroup

If I didn't miss anything here, the logic of this is simple. Therefore I
request that those who are flaming on sci.aquaria stop it (since this is in
Phase V) and wait until the totals come out before they try to undermine it
with rec.aquaria .

All this flaming has done is create more work for my modem. I made my
determination and posted my vote (as I hope everyone has) without letting the
flaming determine what my vote would be. This vote is private and until Phase
VII it should stay that way.

----- Completly Different Issue -----

I also feel that any issue that requires a vote should have a feedback
mechinism that allows the vote taker to acknowledge that the vote was recv'd
and what it was tallied to. Additional information (like a pitch to change the
vote) should not be included! (this is not to insinuate that this has been done
in the past, it is a request that this should not be done in the future!) 


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The bottom line is; Flaming during the vote, or requesting reconsideration of a
posted vote is in *bad* taste (as is some of the language that was used on this
system as the sci.aquaria was being discussed) it has the flavor of politicians
getting too close to the polling places.

Although I would like to see sci.aquaria put to bed before discussion on
rec.aquaria, I don't see where one being in vote precludes the other from being
proposed and discussed. I believe that the "Open discussion" on rec.aquaria was
started in a childish manner (should have let the vote close on sci.aqauria
first) and it would be in the best interst of all net users if everything were
just pulled back and off the fires until the vote finished.

This is a user net, and I would hate to have to deregister this newsgroup due
to the lack of tact, style or grace that some (and it is a very few) users have
shown in the constant flames on a single topic. Like I said, enuf is enuf. Let's
just call it quits and see what the vote brings.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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