Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: NewsGroup Renaming Message-ID: <1989Oct27.164842.14655@world.std.com> Date: 27 Oct 89 16:48:42 GMT Organization: The World Lines: 45 Renaming is worth considering but nothing I've seen so far (I may have missed some discussion) seems worthy of consideration. The field of formal subject classification is several hundred years old. All I've seen here are strange, barely amateurish attempts to reinvent this field from scratch, off the top of people's heads. Consider systems like the Dewey Decimal System and Library of Congress's System. For what purpose do you think these people have been honing these systems for centuries now (hell of a sentence, sorry)? *Subject Classification* I say if we rename again we do it for real and get some professional librarians and other knowledge classification experts involved. Then what we do might just be useful in a broader sense than this odd collection of bits and bytes we call the USENET. Otherwise it'll all just fall apart as soon as the first exception comes along (as it's doing right now.) I *DEMAND* (strong words :-) that whatever proposal is accepted for the next USENET renaming be publishable in a refereed library sciences journal, or equivalent. Do the whole job or find someone who will. P.S. Library of Congress and others do use fairly onerous-looking digit strings as classification id's. Before someone objects to this, there's absolutely no reason the software couldn't map that into english-like strings for a user interface. In fact, the abstraction is useful in that it can then be mapped by user interfaces into other languages. Anyhow, it's the STRUCTURE we're after, from there we could get creative with how it looks to a user. But at least we'll have some confidence that we did the best we could. And it might even survive the next sci.aquaria proposal. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die, Purveyors to the Trade | bzs@world.std.com 1330 Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02146, (617) 739-0202 | {xylogics,uunet}world!bzs