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From: jay@splut.conmicro.com (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: clarinet??????
Message-ID: <2978@splut.conmicro.com>
Date: 25 Oct 89 18:57:49 GMT
References: <331@lawnet.LawNet.Com> <1989Oct20.072121.16743@rpi.edu> <332@lawnet.LawNet.Com>
Reply-To: jay@splut.conmicro.com (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard)
Organization: Confederate Microsystems, League City, TX
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Greg's posting is so full of factual errors it's hard to know where to
start.

In article <332@lawnet.LawNet.Com> greg@.LawNet.Com (Gregory G. Petersen) writes:
>Apparently you didn't get the create newsgroup message that was sent out

Anyone who's seeing biz.clarinet.sample got the newgroup message, by
definition.

>which, as I understood the situation required a vote.

Neither biz.all nor clari.all requires a vote. Biz.* works like alt.*:
post a message, get comments, if not royally flamed create the group.
Clari.* is even simpler: it's Brad's hierarchy, and he can do what he
wants to with it. Note well: _neither_ _one_ is part of the mainstream
Usenet, and _neither_ _one_ is subject to its rules.

>Moreover, I frankly don't get "biz" - which was the point of the posting.

There are exactly two ways for you to get that stuff:
1) You get biz, either intentionally or leaked.
2) You get Clarinet, either intentionally or leaked.

Since you say you don't get either one intentionally, then there's a
leak, either in clari.* or biz.*. I suggest you contact your feed sites
to find out which is the case; if someone's leaking clari.*, I believe
there's a cash reward for you if you can find out who. Personally, I
suspect someone's leaking biz to you.

> Since I don't why is
>brad@looking approving groups outside "biz" and sending them.

You must be referring to clari.* - which is his hierarchy to do with as
he pleases, since it's outside of the mainstream Usenet and not subject
to its rules.

> As I now
>understand in email responses he was trying to do a service about the 
>earthquake - or so I am told (ca.earthquake seems to serve the purpose
>as well) albeit the email was the first I heard of that (and I will leave
>my views of the merits out of it).

Actually, it was there before that - he was gatewaying news of the
Shuttle before the earthquake, and news of the baseball pennant races
before that.

Besides, did ca.earthquake carry a direct feed from UPI?

Your hysteria is adding little to the discussion; if you'd just calm
down and look at the facts, you'd see that Brad's _not_ trying to take
over the Usenet for his nefarious, eeeeeeeeeevil commercial purposes.

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL   | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jay@splut.conmicro.com       (eieio)| adequately be explained by stupidity.
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