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From: jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: clarinet??????
Message-ID: <661@visdc.UUCP>
Date: 31 Oct 89 21:15:29 GMT
References: <331@lawnet.LawNet.Com> <1989Oct20.072121.16743@rpi.edu> <332@lawnet.LawNet.Com> <2978@splut.conmicro.com>
Reply-To: jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III)
Organization: VI Software Development, Boise, Idaho
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In article <2978@splut.conmicro.com> jay@splut.conmicro.com
(Jay Maynard) writes:
>
> Neither biz.all nor clari.all requires a vote.

These are the biz groups that I order from UUNET:

	biz.comp.hardware
	biz.comp.mcs
	biz.comp.services
	biz.comp.software
	biz.comp.software.demos
	biz.comp.telebit
	biz.config
	biz.control
	biz.newgroup

Note that I do not order biz, in the sense of getting everything that
biz might contain.  If I subscribed to biz and biz.clarinet were
created, I would expect to begin receiving the new group.

One morning I got mail from my system that both biz.clarinet and
biz.clarinet.sample had been created.  I should add that while I receive
a subset of the alt hierarchy from UUNET, UUNET has always shielded me
from the group creation activity characteristic of alt.  Anyway, that
morning and each successive morning until I put a stop to it,
biz.clarinet.sample contained article after article of baseball game
synopses written in the same predictable and (to me) uninteresting style
that I had seen posted to sci.space during the Neptune flyby.

I appreciated seeing a sample of the articles.  I had previously been
inclined to subscribe to clarinet, and I could immediately determine
that reading a lot of that type of material would not be fun for me.
That said, I feel that an inordinate amount of that material was forced
upon me; especially considering the way a new hierarchy just popped up
and started filling up disk space.

I hope that in the future the usenet presence of clarinet will confine
itself to biz.clarinet.  If UUNET is in need of pushing more bits,
perhaps they could provide a uucp <-> ftp transfer capability or
something that is less controversial than the current association with
clarinet.  From my perspective, the complicity of UUNET in the hard sell
of clarinet is unseemly.
--
John E Van Deusen III, PO Box 9283, Boise, ID  83707, (208) 343-1865

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