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From: gazit@lear.cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: how to bash feminism without really trying
Keywords: What you *DO* is what you are.
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Date: 21 Oct 89 13:21:00 GMT
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In article <2357@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> (Damballah Wedo) writes:

>Of course you will provide mechanisms for determining who the best candidate
>is. These mechanisms should be objective, and should give accurately identify
>the best candidate close to 100% of the time.

My idea is that after someone will be punished the rest will be careful.

Think about the woman that was accepted to partnership via the Court.  Don't
you think that a large fine *on the partners* could cause
other partnerships to be careful?

>You'll also have to describe how this approach solves the issue of an
>employer not dicriminating in the hiring process, but making no efforts at
>all to include other than white males in the pool of candidates.

Force them to publish the job.  
BTW a policy like this may help asians and other non-Old-Boys...

>When I took an interviewer's seminar, they told us NEVER to ask what the
>candidate is currently making, because it is not strictly related to the
>job being discussed and could therefore open up the company to discrimination

To ask every candidate by mail about his sex/race is OK,
but asking about salary is discriminatory...

Thanks for providing a prime example of a feminist double standard...

>Marcel-Franck Simon             mingus@attunix.ATT.COM, attunix!mingus

Hillel                                                gazit@cs.duke.edu

"When I do it to you it's sexism, when you do it to me it's feminism..."