Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uwvax!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: ASPRINGMAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAYSPRING) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: HUMAN VERSES SINLESS Message-ID: Date: 30 Oct 89 02:13:44 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 38 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu I have heard a disturbing echo from Christians during my four wonderful years of new life with Jesus. I have heard it on this newsgroup also. _Praise_for_being_human_instead_of_pious._ Ok, I get it as far as hypocrites go. They act pious but are utterly sinful. But, more is being said than that. I see the following implications... 1) Humans are defined as sinners. Now, I am sorry to disagree with so many people throughout History, but humans are not created as sinners. "For all have sinned and fall short the glory of God." is very true but notice it says sinned, not sinned from conception. 2) Humans are confined to sin until heaven. To this I ask what the Resurection and the Cross were all about? What does it mean that our old selves are crucified with Christ and that we are new creations and that we are washed in the blood of Jesus, white as snow. Why can't we walk in holiness? Who's to stop us if God is with us? 3) Those people who are walking in the light are not being praised. If anyone should be praised it should be sinless humans not sinful humans. PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS! I VERY MUCH WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THIS! To Him Who is able to KEEP YOU FROM FALLING and present you before His glorious Presence WITHOUT FAULT and with great joy, to the olny God, our Savior be glory, power, majesty, and authority through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forever more. AMEN! Andrew William Springman Adopted Son of Elohim Grafted Branch Tickl'r of the Gitt'r