Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!ginosko!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!dptg!lzga!jlw From: jlw@lzga.ATT.COM (J.L.WOOD) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: Re: .5 + .5 + .5 + 1.5 = 2.0 ? Message-ID: <1680@lzga.ATT.COM> Date: 25 Oct 89 23:01:32 GMT References: <4224@itivax.iti.org> <10383@cbnews.ATT.COM> <388@msdrl.UUCP> <1685@mtunb.ATT.COM> Reply-To: jlw@lzga.UUCP (J.L.WOOD) Organization: AT&T ISL Lincroft NJ USA Lines: 17 John McMillan stated that the 7300 would fail with many standard 256Kbit parts. I have observed this to be true. Unfortunately the memory diagnostics do not always detect this. What happened to me a few years ago was that I was populating 2-EIA + 1.5 Meg expansion cards with WECo 256KBit parts supposedly industry standard. The Combo card tri-states the 8-th address bit as it strobes across the addresses refreshing the DRAMS. The WECo chip couldn't handle this and failed to properly refresh. The memory diagnostics didn't fail because their algorithms caused affected memory locations to be revisited well within the memory refresh interval thus refreshing whole rows of memory. I didn't get my failures until I started loading and running UNIX which will load code into memory and then revisit it only when necessary. I got panic traps up to 10 minutes after reloading UNIX since not all of my memory on any given machine was of this type. Joe Wood