Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!shadooby!oxtrap!teemc!cfctech!kevin
From: kevin@cfctech.UUCP (Kevin Darcy)
Newsgroups: unix-pc.general
Subject: Re: problems with gcc - out of virtural memory
Message-ID: <17308@cfctech.UUCP>
Date: 28 Oct 89 21:27:45 GMT
References: <1989Oct21.174252.16142@ivucsb.sba.ca.us> <89@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM> <1004@kosman.UUCP>
Reply-To: kevin@cfctech.UUCP (Kevin Darcy)
Organization: Chrysler Financial Corp., Southfield, MI
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In article <1004@kosman.UUCP> kevin@kosman.UUCP (Root) writes:
>In article <89@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM> baur@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM (Steven L. Baur) writes:
>>From article <1989Oct21.174252.16142@ivucsb.sba.ca.us>, by todd@ivucsb.sba.ca.us (Todd Day):
>>> I was running gcc for the first time, compiling the latest version
>>> of NetHack.  ...
>>> So what is the problem?  Does gcc really hog that much memory?
>>
>>I tried compiling nethack with gcc too, but ran into different problems.
>>I have a UNIXPC with 2.5MB of ram and a 62MB winchester.  It compiled and
>>linked (apparently) O.K.
>>However, when I tried to save/restore levels or arrive on a bones level it
>>bombed.
>>I finally used stock cc and that got it running.
>>
>The only trouble I had was the save/restore problem,
>which I tracked down to a crok in as(1)!!!  Seems that gcc in ANSI mode
>can put 'const' things in the text partition so that they're memory
>protected and shared, but as has a problem with this.  When gcc emits
>the 'space' pseudo-op in the text partition, as produces non-zero contents.
>

Why, oh why does everybody seem to be swarming to gcc to get NetHack running?
I have NetHack running without anything but the shipped cc, cpp, ccom, as &
ld. It takes just a little light tweaking of options and #includes. I'm not
trying to brag or be close-minded, I'm just curious why people would try to
implement a behemoth like NetHack on shaky PD ground, when it already treads
a fine line with the standard tools. (Make that "almost infinitesimal"
line in the case of stock cpp - is there any way of getting a more robust
version from AT&T?)

Of course, if there are some bona fide added long-term benefits to using the 
GNU stuff, please someone tell me what they are, how to get it easily without 
FTP access, I'll have a try at implementing it myself, then try and convince 
the NetHack development team that they can't live without supporting it...

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