Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!udel!mmdf From: C503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu (Baird McIntosh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: All this Flicker-Fixer/ECS discussion Message-ID: <3241@lab.udel.EDU> Date: 3 Nov 89 00:52:24 GMT Sender: mmdf@udel.EDU Lines: 48 Several people have shown interest in buying MicroWay's Flicker-Fixer. Then someone else (Bob <....> of Pro-Graphics?) says the Flicker-Fixer fixes a non-problem, namely interlace flicker. I'd like to put the arguments for and against the FF into perspective here if I may. (and I may bunge it up anyway) FLICKER-FIXER: First of all, what do you get with the Flicker-Fixer? You get flicker-free 400 vertical-line displays. This could be 320x400 HAM, 320x400 normal (2-64 colors), or 640x400 hi-res (2-16 colors) OR any of those with your favorite overscan resolution thrown in. Now, the 16 colors in hi-res can be ANY of the Amiga's 4096 colors; for example a grey-scale. This would be good for people who need flicker-free multi-color CAD displays or a 16-color graphics terminal (color X11?) or for desktop publishing. Obviously, flicker is a real feature when you're talking about video applications, but there are times when one may need flicker-free 16-color hi-res. MicroWay has released a modification for the FF to allow the use of a genlock while the FF is still plugged in (I assume this mod. just turns interlace back on). To use the FF, you pay something like $450-599 for the actual board and then you need a multi-sync monitor which costs maybe $500+ (not sure of price). ECS: On the other hand, with ECS you can have a Productivity Mode that gives a screen res. of 640x480 (note: not 640x400!) like that of a Mac II, but you are limited to 4 colors (2-bitplanes) out of a palette of 64 colors. This is great for a professional looking Workbench, but it may not be adequate for hi-res CAD, DTP, or other multi-color work. I would be interested if anyone knows exactly which 64 colors (RGB values) the user can pick from to make the 4 color screen. One final note: I read in Amiga Sentry that the ECS also supports a 1008x800 greyscale display. I think that this is an interlaced display (i.e. flicker). The ECS also has many other special attributes that will make it a must-have for video work. To use the ECS you need to purchase it when it finally gets here ($ ?) and you need a multi-sync or perhaps a Commodore bi-sync (less expensive but non- existant right now). QUESTIONS: Does the flicker-fixer work with 1008x800 greyscale displays with the current chips and a custom driver/monitor? I thought that you could open a 1008x800 window with some custom drivers for a Viking monitor with the current chip set. Is this true? I hope I have given factual info, and maybe someone with ECS knowledge and/or knowledge of the 1008x800 resolution could answer the questions I have. # Baird McIntosh "Oh it doesn't seem like this Blue Sky's here for me..." # # INTERNET: c503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu <-or-> BITNET: c503719@umcvmb.bitnet #