Xref: utzoo comp.os.minix:7786 comp.sys.ibm.pc:37410 comp.unix.xenix:8360 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!crdgw1!ge-dab!peora!tarpit!bilver!bill From: bill@bilver.UUCP (Bill Vermillion) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: IBM and Apple Operating Systems (Re: dosread.c again) Message-ID: <337@bilver.UUCP> Date: 1 Nov 89 02:33:56 GMT References: <6661@ficc.uu.net-> <10609@cbnews.ATT.COM> <143@asihub.UUCP> <6723@ficc.uu.net> Reply-To: bill@bilver.UUCP (Bill Vermillion) Organization: W. J. Vermillion, Winter Park, FL Lines: 41 In article <6723@ficc.uu.net-> korenek@ficc.uu.net (Gary Korenek) writes: ->In article <143@asihub.UUCP>, jmp@asihub.UUCP (John Pantone) writes: ->> Microsoft and IBM simply blew it when designing MSDOS and the PC... .... ->3. IBM put it's tail on the line in introducing the IBM PC. No one -> knew it would take off like a rocket. It was a huge gamble. This was IBM's THIRD attempt at a small-business computer. It was not a huge gamble, because they didn't put that much into it - particularly in comparison to their later units. They seem to hit about 1 in 3, but that's not too bad. ->5. Compared to the 8 bit stuff available at the time, the IBM PC (and -> MS-DOS) was a step forward. I didn't think so. After sitting at a PC in Aug/Sep 1981, I found that I had more power and faster operations in my Z80 based systems. It only had a SSDD 160k disk, while others out there had 360k AND 720k. - and 1.2 megs if you count the 8" systems. Maybe you and I were looking at different things then, but I stayed away until Dos 2.0 came out. That's when I made the move, and then after a year, I backed away. I just couldn't get used to a system that slow. Only when the AT architecture came out with the '286 did the machines become useable for my tastes. PC was my 4th or 5th machine (I think). ->7. Look at consumer VHS video technology. It's in a parllel situation -> to IBM-PCs and MS-DOS. It started as breakthrough technology. We -> went out and bought tons of the stuff. We demanded higher performance. -> The original design has been enhanced to meet market demands. It now -> seems ordinary, commonplace, and almost obsolete. Again, at the time -> of introduction, this was breakthrough stuff. My 1977 Beta I still outperforms most VHS machines, but that's another story. -> ->8. The point to all this: companies take massive gambles with new -> products. If it had not been for the original IBM-PC and MS-DOS, -> we would not even have what we have today. That's absolutely true. We probably would have had something much better. -- Bill Vermillion - UUCP: {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd}!peora!tarpit!bilver!bill : bill@bilver.UUCP