Xref: utzoo comp.os.minix:7808 comp.sys.ibm.pc:37508 comp.unix.xenix:8383 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.yu.edu (Craig Werner) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: IBM and Apple Operating Systems (Re: dosread.c again) Message-ID: <2566@aecom.yu.edu> Date: 3 Nov 89 04:44:41 GMT References: <6661@ficc.uu.net> <10609@cbnews.ATT.COM> <143@asihub.UUCP> <6773@ficc.uu.net> Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 31 In article <6773@ficc.uu.net>, peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: > In article <2564@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: > > In article <6724@ficc.uu.net>, peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: > > > IBM didn't create the PC indusry. It doesn't do that any more. It looked and > > > it saw a thriving industry, and said "I want that". So it took it. > > > Short memory, Mr. da Silva? Before the IBM PC came out, there were > > Apple IIs, and CP/M boxes, and Radio Shack computers, but it was > > still a hobbyist market. > > versions of CP/M. It was a LOT more expensive than the Apples and Radio > Shacks. The only reason it sold was the percieved value of the IBM name. > For quite some time the only way to do anything useful with an IBM was to > stick a "Baby Blue" card (or equivalent) in and run CP/M software. I worked with Apple IIs and TRS-80 model Is. I got a floppy only IBM PC in the fall of 1983, having to wait 3 months to get CGA. With twin floppies and CGA, there is no doubt in my mind that the IBM PC was a better machine than either the Apple IIe, the TRS-80, or the Kaypro. Now, of course, I feel that almost any clone is preferable to a PS/2, but I still hold that the IBM PC was indeed a good computer. If it wasn't, not even IBM could have sold it (witness all their flops in the years since) -- Craig Werner (future MD/PhD, 4.5 years down, 2.5 to go) werner@aecom.YU.EDU -- Albert Einstein College of Medicine (1935-14E Eastchester Rd., Bronx NY 10461, 212-931-2517) "But I digress..."