Xref: utzoo comp.os.minix:7821 comp.sys.ibm.pc:37585 comp.unix.xenix:8397 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!mit-eddie!bu-cs!xylogics!world!madd From: madd@world.std.com (jim frost) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re^2: IBM and Apple Operating Systems (Re: dosread.c again) Message-ID: <1989Nov3.191142.4163@world.std.com> Date: 3 Nov 89 19:11:42 GMT References: <6661@ficc.uu.net> <10609@cbnews.ATT.COM> <143@asihub.UUCP> <6723@ficc.uu.net> Organization: Software Tool & Die Lines: 33 Followups-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc korenek@ficc.uu.net (Gary Korenek) writes: >In article <143@asihub.UUCP>, jmp@asihub.UUCP (John Pantone) writes: >> Microsoft and IBM simply blew it when designing MSDOS and the PC... >3. IBM put it's tail on the line in introducing the IBM PC. No one > knew it would take off like a rocket. It was a huge gamble. The PC was at least IBM's second attempt at creating a PC. Another attempt was called the "IBM System/23 Datamaster". It ran only BASIC (sound familiar? BASIC in ROM?), had 2 8" drives, was closed-architecture, and used EBCDIC. The BASIC was by far the strangest dialect I've ever seen (heavy FORTRAN influence, I think) but was excellent for doing record-oriented I/O. The machine was a flop. It was such a big flop that almost nobody I know has ever heard of it. IBM screwed everyone who bought one of those things, dropping support almost immediately. People were extremely unhappy with IBM's concept of "PC" at the time. What happened to all the Datamasters? Well, the original PC keyboard is an exact duplicate of that used on the Datamaster with the exception of the printing on the tops of the keys and the fact that the keyboard is separate from the CPU.... In short, IBM just keeps trying things until something works, just like Edison with the lightbulb. They have the resources to do it, while others try much harder to make intelligent decisions. So, we're stuck with a braindamaged DOS and limited hardware. Sigh. Followups redirected to comp.sys.ibm.pc. jim frost software tool & die "The World" Public Access Unix for the '90s madd@std.com +1 617-739-WRLD 24hrs {3,12,24}00bps