Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!voder!pyramid!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpsgpa!plim From: plim@hpsgpa.HP.COM (Peter Lim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: How good are these 386 mail order companies?? Message-ID: <340014@hpsgpa.HP.COM> Date: 8 Nov 89 09:09:58 GMT References: <48@bucsb.UUCP> Organization: HP Singapore IC Design Ctr Lines: 44 Don't know anything about the mail order companies you listed. I write just to say "Beware when people claim true 25 mhz". A few days ago I just bought a 386-25 Mhz motherboard (true 25 mhz) for about the same price. After I wrote them the check, I got a receipt with the system item list printed. One of the lines said "25 mhz system board (20 Mhz CPU)". What happened was: the 386 CPU is a 20 mhz rated unit, but the chipset is 25 mhz rated. And they wanted a few more hundred bucks if I want a 25 mhz CPU. Anyway, I gave the 20 mhz CPU a chance to prove itself (using 8 MB of 100 ns RAM, talk about pushing the chips ! :-)). I told them I'll be back if the thing can't run 25 Mhz. So far, after running two days of burn-in with some real nasty test programs, the system runs 25 MHz with interleaved memory beautifully and every part in the system is real cool (really ! I can't feel any part heating up a single bit at all) ! I can't quite remember the name of the mother board (some Taiwanese clone). But the distinct feature is it is highly integrated using 8 VLSI chips. E-mail me if you want more detail, but I doubt if you can get the same thing in the States (I'm in Singapore). So, the moral is "Take vendor's claim with a pinch of salt". Must say I was lucky so far......... > One other thing... is there a difference between the power supply > connectors on an XT board vs. AT/386 board? If so, please describe it. > As far as I know, no difference. But don't quote me :-). Regards, Peter Lim. HP Singapore IC Design Center. E-mail address: plim@hpsgwg Snail Mail address: Peter Lim Hewlett Packard Singapore, (ICDS, ICS) 1150, Depot Road, Singapore 0410. Telephone: (065)-279-2289