Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bruce!monu1!vaxc!cos842x From: cos842x@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: MAC clones. The argument continues.... Message-ID: <10289@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> Date: 31 Oct 89 05:08:45 GMT Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia Lines: 43 Re: MAC Clones etc... ( a personal comments!) . I have heard a saying somewhere, it goes: "Today computer engineers are born from the DEC PDP11 and/or the APPLE II.." I am one of them. But I still think APPLE stinks!!! The MAC is a very good system, in software term. In hardware term it's horrible, all those wasted and duplicated address space. I think APPLE had destroyed the "computer club" trust and share of system design and development that gave birth to the APPLE II. In another word they were money hungry ( not a bad thing! I admit, but they went far beyond..). I have heard that the real problem with a 100% MAC clone is not so much the hardware or the firmware (i.e ROM).I would say the 256k word ROM can be functionally duplicated. The hardware, in today advanced technology there is no problem. The real problem is the "MAC look and feel" and you guess it! The big and long corporate arm of APPLE had started a suit againts MICROSOFT (ha! ha!). How convenience! APPLE who had work quite closely with MICROSOFT on many products, now turned around and suited their friend . This legal suit is nothing but to set a precedent in court over the issue of "Look and feel". If APPLE wins, they would have succeded in damaging a good part of computer development. I wonder, do you remember the CPM "A>" prompt? Someone can make quite a bundle taking people to court over that, in today's many operating system. The HKK and TAIWANESE should have been credited for their contribution (for better or worst). With the increased availability of cheap compatible system, more tinkering and program writting by many more people, many good programs and ideas are conceived. "Noone is perfect, including APPLE, but they think they are!?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pan. (Not a great fan of APPLE, but I do appreciate their system.)