Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!psuvax1!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: military@cbnews.ATT.COM (William B. Thacker) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Caseless ammo Message-ID: <10794@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 31 Oct 89 04:06:29 GMT Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall, Wallingford CT Lines: 24 Approved: military@att.att.com From: lanl.gov!cmcl2!yale!spock!soup (Constantin von Wentzel) In article <10572@cbnews.ATT.COM> you write: > > >From: Amos Shapira > The caseless 4.7mm round for the (still experimental) H&K G-11 AR. There >is a multitude of round types. If I'm not mistaken the German Bundesgrenzschutz is getting them [H&K G-11 AR]. The rifle and the ammo are deemed excellent because there are some great improvements such as a magazine that lies flat ON the barrel and the amount of shots capabvle of thus being fired increases rapidly without making the rifle bulky. Plus, the caseless ammo weighs much much less than the standard american M-16 stuff. In the article I read awhile ago there was a comparison in weight between the two guns. Where the M-16 with 216 rounds was on one side you could have something like 500 rounds with the new caseless ammo. Caseless ammo also elimenates the need to eject the case and thus clog much less and require less maintenance. So, if we're all lucky we might get that wonderfull piece of german engineering for the whole NATO contingent, it would certainly make sense. Constantin von Wentzel.