Path: utzoo!attcan!sobmips!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!odx From: ODX@PSUVM.BITNET (Tim Larson) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: /286 processor speeds:question Message-ID: <89320.110617ODX@PSUVM.BITNET> Date: 16 Nov 89 16:06:17 GMT References: <5392@cps3xx.UUCP> <1336@uvm-gen.UUCP> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 35 In article <1336@uvm-gen.UUCP>, wirthlin@uvm-gen.UUCP (Ralph Wirthlin,Gamma IV,31415926535,27182818) says: > > > An 8086 will also access memory 16 bits at a time on a word boundary >(fetch). As someone pointed out, however, the 286 has reduced the >number of cycles required for a few of the, previously, expensive >instructions such as div or mul. I also believe (don't have the >tech manual handy) that the pre-fetch queue on the 286 is larger than >the 8086, thus increasing the throughput. > The relative speed of the 286 over the 86 is obviously complicated by >the type of program being run. Is the program cpu or memory-bound? > This is the most important point -- what is your application doing? Word processing, database, program development, etc. are all IO-intensive (most office type programs are). Games, etc. may not be so IO-intensive. The biggest difference, then, is whether you have an 8-bit data bus, 16-bit data bus, or a 32-bit data bus (like MicroChannel or EISA). The 8086 can handle 16 bits of data (unlike the original 8088), but is most often (always?) stuck in an 8-bit XT style bus. The 80286 is most often stuck in a 16-bit AT style bus and thus IO gets a performance boost of roughly 2X. Put an 80286 in an XT and what do you get? Very modest performance improvement at the same clock rate (is this why so-called accelerators have faded into the background?). Recall, too that the AT bus is a superset of the XT bus and XT cards in an AT slot won't do much to improve performance. An AT with all XT cards will not be a lot faster than an XT at the same clock rate. Note that this is the way many *inexpensive* clones stay inexpensive, and the reason that they often are a disappointment to their buyers. Moral: buyer beware! -Tim Larson odx@psuvm.bitnet