Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!crdgw1!ge-dab!sunny!harrison From: harrison@sunny.DAB.GE.COM (Gregory Harrison) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: FFT Window Effects Message-ID: <2615@ge-dab.GE.COM> Date: 9 Nov 89 15:25:57 GMT References: <2564@radio.oakhill.UUCP> Sender: news@ge-dab.GE.COM Reply-To: harrison@sunny.UUCP (Gregory Harrison) Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems Dept., Daytona Beach, FL Lines: 37 In article <2564@radio.oakhill.UUCP> charlie@oakhill.UUCP (Charlie Thompson) writes: >window might affect the signal and noise power calculations. Since >the window 'smears' the harmonics into adjacent bins it must likewise >do so to the noise bins...thus affecting the noise power calculation. Have you looked in "On the use of windows for harmonic analysis with the discrete Fourier Transform" Fredric J. Harris, Proc. IEEE Vol. 66, No. 1, Jan 1978, pp. 51 to 83? There are some reference in there, in addition to the info in the main text. I thought that the smearing was due to the discontinuities at the edges of the input time series, and that the window is applied in an attempt to decrease the smearing, as opposed to causing it. Are you looking for distortion due to quantization, or due to other signal energy in the input signal. A good book illustrating windowing, and a lot of other DSP info, in very straightforward and computer based manner is First Principles of Digital Signal Processing, by Strum and Kirk ~1988. The book is at home, so this is from memory. Possibly a good method to get a close approximation to the noise would be to take the FFT of the signal, go in and set the frequency components (bins) immediately around the sine wave peak to zero for both positive and negative components. Then apply Parseval's Theorem on the remaining frequency components. In other words, sum up the squares of the remaining components to get the total noise power in the spectrum. If the noise power is much lower than the sine wave, I would think that a good approximation to the noise power in the signal can be gained in this manner. Assuming that the noise is aperiodic, and of low amplitude, smearing due to discontinuities of the noise at the edges of the input spectrum should be negligable in amplitude. This may at least provide a basis of comparison between input samples. Greg Harrison My opinions are not intended to express those of GE.