Xref: utzoo comp.edu:2633 comp.software-eng:2361 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!rice!uw-beaver!Teknowledge.COM!unix!hplabs!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!ncrcae!hubcap!billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu From: billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 ) Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CS education Message-ID: <7024@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 13 Nov 89 21:53:42 GMT References: <16028@duke.cs.duke.edu> Sender: news@hubcap.clemson.edu Reply-To: billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu Lines: 23 From crm@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Charlie Martin): > [argues in favor of an OS requirement] > I'm saying this as a person who came to grad school as an experienced > software engineer and a firm believer in just the position that Bill > Wolfe proposes. [i.e., replacing it with software engineering work] Well, as a person who came to grad school as an experienced software engineer and is about to leave grad school even more strongly convinced that the requirement should be for software engineering and not OS, I'd like to see you or anyone else actually address the specific point I raised: that a strengthened software engineering requirement would be a more productive use of student time than an OS requirement, for those students who are not to become OS professionals. Not "why is an OS course better than nothing", not "was the OS course you took useful", but "why an OS requirement is better than the alternative of a strengthened software engineering requirement". I'm still waiting to see someone actually address this issue... Bill Wolfe, wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu