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From: bam@rudedog.sgi.com (Brian McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: UEmacs 3.10
Keywords: UEmacs, file permissions
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Date: 9 Nov 89 22:43:48 GMT
References: <440@secola.Columbia.NCR.COM> <10322@j.cc.purdue.edu>
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In article <10322@j.cc.purdue.edu> nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) writes:
>In article <440@secola.Columbia.NCR.COM> krupczak@secola.UUCP (Bobby Krupczak) writes:
>>Hi!
>>
>>I am using Micro Emacs 3.10.  I have noticed that 3.10 seems to ignore
>>current file permissions and use my umask setting by default.  Also
>>when editing files owned by other users, the owner gets changed to
>>me?  Has anyone encountered similiar problems, and if so, is there
>>a fix for 3.10 that I dont have?
>>
>>bobby
>
>	Not so much a bug, as a feature......  actually it implements a new
>saving algorithm which writes out a temp file, deletes the original, and
>then renames the temp file.  This prevents system crashes from
>destroying the file.  This behavior is controled by the $ssave variable
>and can be turned off by setting it to FALSE.  (One would add the
>following to their .emacsrc file:
>
>	set $ssave FALSE
>

Unfortunately, this doesn't solve the actual bug... which is that given
a -r--r--r-- file, uemacs 3.10 writes the file anyway.  It should check
the permissions before even doing the mv.

BTW, I have been trying to contact you (Daniel Lawrence) about other
problems I'm having with 3.10, but so far no response by E-mail.  

One I remember off-hand is the use of entab/detab in a $readhook-ed
macro seems to hose the file while just executing the macro works fine.

Another is when editting a file w/ the cursor at the beginning of an
existing line, hitting <CR> to insert one before the existing line 
is a no-op.  This one is rare but I see it at least once a week.

Are these known problems, have I screwed something up in the build, or
have I discovered new ones?

(I love uemacs and would die without the portability it offers, thanks
 for making it available to the world!)
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