Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucla-cs!scw From: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Seeking info on TCP/IP for IBM m/f Keywords: TCP/IP, IBM Message-ID: <29114@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 14 Nov 89 00:23:09 GMT References: <122@centaure.UUCP> <29590@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods) Organization: UCLA School Of Engineering & Applied Science Lines: 30 In article <29590@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> hughes@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (larry hughes) writes: }> }> "... in addition, IBM extended support TCP/IP support from }> its UNIX systems to its mainframes. System 370s can }> communicate with devices supporting TCP/IP either by }> a direct connection to an Ethernet network, or through }> the 8232 LAN channel station to a token ring LAN. }> } }Not really "direct"! IBM's TCP/IP solution calls for an }industrial-strength AT that's attached to the ethernet, }and channel attached back to the IBM host. They call it }a FEP (front end processor). }We're running an Intel FEP here... Hmmmm, This is like saying that an interlan VAX card is not direct, or that an 'smart' card is not direct. Remember a 360/370 channel is much like a VERY smart unibus (albeit with only 256 slots on it). Just because there is some outboard processing doesn't mean that it's not direct. As an anology think of a IBM/PC (8086 flavor) attached to a Printronix P-600 printer, there is more computing_power/smarts in the printer than there is in the computer. Besides that's not really a FEP, as Series/1 terminal driver (for IXX) now that's an FEP. The 9370 CETI device is built into the processor, not attached to an external channel. ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614 UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU