Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!husc6!bu-cs!xylogics!world!madd From: madd@world.std.com (jim frost) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CS education [engineering, mathematics, and computer science] Message-ID: <1989Nov16.183033.15112@world.std.com> Date: 16 Nov 89 18:30:33 GMT References: <1398@cs.rit.edu> <10072@goofy.megatest.UUCP> Organization: Software Tool & Die Lines: 22 djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >> In article <34754@regenmeister.uucp> chrisp@regenmeister.uucp (Chris Prael) writes: >>First year calculus in not taught for any reason having anything to do >>with the education of mathematicians. It is taught because the teaching >>of physics and most forms of engineering is crippled without it. >I must differ. You can now buy a cheap symbolic calculus calculator >which will do everything taught in those entry level courses, and more. >And quicker, and more accurately than you can do it yourself. And you'll miss out on all the relationships that are obvious if you know calculus. Most of my high-school physics finally started making sense when I took my first calculus course and saw how many of those formulae were derived. I would feel better if engineers knew WHY things worked, and I believe that understanding the mathematics behind the scenes is crucial to understanding the behavior of real-life systems. jim frost software tool & die madd@std.com