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From: kreme@netcom.UUCP (Lewis Butler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: RE: piracy
Message-ID: <4201@netcom.UUCP>
Date: 14 Nov 89 03:47:32 GMT
References: <8911121022.AA17345@trout.nosc.mil> <5724@lindy.Stanford.EDU> <36425@apple.Apple.COM>
Reply-To: kreme@netcom.UUCP (Lewis Butler)
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In article <36425@apple.Apple.COM> you write:
>In article <5724@lindy.Stanford.EDU> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User)
writes:
>>      I do not feel guilty in copying garbage software like Gauntlet GS.
>>Only in the past few months have I felt guilty for giving software a
>>"test drive" (that's sort of how I perceive it) unless it's really good
>>software. I have felt a little guilty about things like Copy II Plus,
>>Xenocide, and ProTERM and am in the process of finding the cheapest mail
>>order prices for them to buy them. Sort of for Arkanoid (I and II) too.

This is exactly what I do.  I used Proterm for a while, kicked the tires
and drove it around the block.  Decided it was not worth $129 (or even $85)
and bought TIC instead.  Sure, it has it's problems, but it works.  I also
and trying out Zlink right now to see how it works...  If I like it, I will
buy the shareware license.  If not I will delete it.

By the way, do you remeber me?

>"I got a copy of this game and played it for about two weeks and then it
>wasn't challenging anymore.  Of course I'm not gonna buy it; it's no good."
>Yeah, right.  Self-justification reaches new highs.

This is total bullshit.  I >STILL< play Ultima IV, Lode Runner, and
Championship Lode Runner.  As well as Lazer Maze and Hardball and Sargon
III and quite a lot more.  If a game is no fun after a couple of weeks
why should anyone spend $40-50 bucks on something they are only going to
use for a little while and then get bored with?
>
>I'll bet you wish you could go to a restaurant and order whatever you liked,
>and then decide after eating it if it was worth the menu price or not (and if
>it is, go to some other restaurant to buy the same dish as cheaply as
>possible).  It don't work that way.

Once again, you are soo full of it that your eyes are turning brown.  When
you copy software you are not costing the company ANYTHING except a possible
lost sale.  You are not taking merchandise or produce from them that they paid
for and destroying it.  I suppose you don't test drive new cars either?
>
>In our economy, if you don't like what the producer produces, you don't buy it.
>You don't just take it and then decide if you want to pay for it or not.  Any
>other description is just self-justification for illegal activities, no matter
>how you slice it.

No.  In this economy if you buy something and don't like it/are not satisfied
you RETURN it.  This is usually impossible with software.  It is the retailers
that are causing so much of the 'pirating' activities.  Thank God for Software
Etc. abd others that allow you to return software up to 30 days after you buy
it.  If more retailers where willing to let you try software out a lot of
people would be a lot happier.  There is nothing more frustrating that laying
out your own money for something and not having work as you expect it.
>
>>--
>>unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Please use the former address. The latter is provided
>>unknown@darkside.com   provided just in case you can't contact the former.
>
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