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Subject: Re: RE: piracy
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Date: 14 Nov 89 10:07:32 GMT
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In article <4528@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) writes:
>I agree with Matt.  If the software is "trash" why do you want a copy?  The
>fact that you want a copy indicates that the software has some value.  If we,
>as users don't buy the software we use, no new software will be written 
>because all of the programmers will go broke.
>
>Since software drives sales of machines, you are killing the Apple II a lot
>more than Apple supposedly is by not paying for software.
>
>Rick Fincher
>rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu

	I will hopefully say a few things I've not said before, although I
realize I will be at least partially repeating things I said in my reply 
to Matt Deatherage's (sp?) message..

	I tried out Gauntlet GS. It absolutely stunk, and that seems to
jive with most people's opinion about it too. The controls were horrible.
If it were even 1/2 as good as the arcade game it would've been great.
BUT NOOOOOOO!  So I deleted it. Some people I know keep a copy of it just
to have a record of what kinds of crud can be programmed. I deleted it
to free up my relatively expensive disk space, and I had no use to either
keep the copy or buy it as I didn't like it.

	I -TRY OUT- software, as I said before. In the cases of ProTERM
and CopyIIPlus (and most likely Xenocide... Perhaps Arkanoid I and/or
II), PIRACY HAS made me AWARE OF THESE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS AND I'M 
[admittedly GOING TO, as in future..still in the process of finding the
best prices] become an owner of them. 

	As I said before, I probably would be much more technically 
knowledgeable and a better programmer if it were not possible/easy/
whatever to pirate since I would be WRITING MY OWN software. Why should
I buy things without using them for AT LEAST A FEW WEEKS?  If there's
something I don't like, I delete it to make room for something else. For
the things that I like well enough (those 4 or 5 in about 5 years of
Apple II computing), I feel OBLIGATED to buy as they are so useful and
well written. The same goes for ShrinkIT GS actually. Even though I 
did think $40 or whatever was a little too high for it, I am going to 
send Andy some money when I get ShrinkIT GS for all of his work with
ShrinkIT (non-GS specific and GS specific alike). Whew, this was long
enough.

	Maybe this has gone long enough in public. Unless other people
think this deserves to be kept public maybe this DISCUSSION (I don't
consider it an argument) should be continued in E-mail. Other people
can make the decision whether they think that is prudent or not. God,
this was a hell of a lot longer than I had expected it to be. Had most
of it written earlier tonight but a bunch of us went out bowling 
spontaneously and it wasn't saved, and now this new version is much
longer.
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