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From: collins@grumpy.cs.unm.edu (Bill Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DECstation 3100 **really** wants to be a rainbow.
Keywords: login
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Date: 9 Nov 89 23:42:35 GMT
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In article <4903@yunexus.UUCP> davecb@yunexus.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) writes:
>  One of the first messages I got to see when we set up a DEC loaner
>was a prohibition to my logging in from another machine: it had
>too many users on it (I believe two X-windows were open) and would
>not allow another person to log in.

No, X-window != login-session

>
>  This **may** be consistent with a 2-user licence, but it's a bit
>inconsistent ...
>
>  Is this a limitation which DEC feels is advisable, to limit sales?
>Is it a new contractual requirment of BSD (:-))?

Unix is not only a trademark of AT&T, they wrote it.  AT&T is very interested
in making sure that they get their royalties from software derived from their
efforts.  People who sell it must have some way of answering to AT&T agreements
that they must make.(not to say money can't be had on the side.)

>  To quote a previous commentator, "mickey mouse crap and marketing tactics
>that stink."

Really?  I seem to hear that a lot.

Perhaps you are a little unhappy that you lack the user upgrade which may
be purchased?  Perhaps you too are astonished that DEC, like *other* companies
wants to make money.

I don't like it either.  But lets not be naive.  Try not to point figners as
you only have few, and there are more than these who would have you pay for
their services.  If you want to be "that way", know what you are doing.

			Bill
			collins@unmvax.unm.edu
			gatech!unmvax!collins


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