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From: elgie@canisius.UUCP (Bill Elgie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DECstation 3100 **really** wants to be a rainbow.
Keywords: login userlimit license royalty
Message-ID: <2580@canisius.UUCP>
Date: 14 Nov 89 09:22:21 GMT
References: <2573@canisius.UUCP> <4903@yunexus.UUCP> <474@shodha.dec.com> <672@granite.dec.com>
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo N.Y. 14208
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In article <672@granite.dec.com>, rwood@vajra.dec.com (Richard Wood) writes:
> 
>              ..........  Don't tell me you know about AT&T's Ts&Cs for
> UNIX licensing - for *RE-SELLERS* of UNIX, every agreement is negotiated
> separately, and the terms are under non-disclosure.  We legally cannot
> tell you under what terms we are allowed to re-sell UNIX.  
> 
  But you expect us to take at faith that DEC did such a poor job of nego-
  tiating its license that it has to charge up to $40,000 for an unlimited
  user license, while SUN charges $2,000 and MIPS includes it "free" with
  ALL its systems ??

>           .........  Even if AT&T changes it's end-user prices, or even
> lowering reseller prices, Digital's price doesn't change!  We could
> probably re-negotiate a new license, but there were terms in the System
> 5.3 license that they offered us that we objected to so strongly that we
> founded OSF - partially as a way around AT&T.
> 
  All for the good of DEC's customers, no doubt......

  (AT&T has been raising prices, by the way)

> -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Wood     Corporate Worksystems Team      Digital Equipment Corp.
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  greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny