Path: utzoo!censor!geac!jtsv16!uunet!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <8911101725.AA10902@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 10 Nov 89 17:25:00 GMT Organization: The Internet Lines: 252 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Nov 10, 1989 In this issue: COMMUNICATIONS PIBTERM 3.2.5 (RAINBOW VE MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KERMIT RE: KERMIT (3 messages) RE: V20 CHIP (2 messages) RE: HD DISKS IN RAINBOW RE: COLOR MONITOR FOR RAI Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed automatically to the Rainbow Echo on Fidonet; thus, you do not need to take any special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (ARPA Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 To: RICK MELLON Subject: COMMUNICATIONS From: JOHN LELLIS In a message of <30 Oct 89 14:09:55>, Rick Mellon (1:142/723) writes: > I'd like to know what Rainbow communications software people like most. >So far, the best I've found is PibTerm. I only wish it supported the >Zmodem protocol. Is there a program out there that does offer Zmodem? BinkleyTerm offers Zmodem as well as most of the other popular protocols. Using either the DECCOMM or PC100.SYS fossil drivers, it runs on the Rainbow. Using OPUS!COM, BNU or X00.SYS fossil drivers, it will run on I*B PCs and clones. It's a very good package - well worth a look. --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: "Over the Rainbow..." (1:106/503) ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 To: DOUG MURRAY Subject: PIBTERM 3.2.5 (RAINBOW VE From: JOHN LELLIS In a message of <30 Oct 89 09:45:55>, Doug Murray (1:163/226.1) writes: >I do have a question, was the compile done on a 'Bow or on a PC and the >file moved over to the 'Bow? And the other question/comment is, do you >think I could get it to work with Turbo Pascal 2.x? I remember having to >patch a few things in Turbo in order for it to works decently on the >'Bow. If I get my hands on TP 3.x, do I still have to do some patching? The compile was done on a DEC Rainbow PC100+ using the "generic" version of Turbo PASCAL 3.01a. I did the conversion back in '86 as a project to famil myself with Turbo PASCAL (I am a VAX PASCAL user at work). This "generic" version of Turbo PASCAL runs on the Rainbow without any patching. I don't know about Turbo PASCAL 2.x - never tried it on the 'bow. I'm up to Turbo PASCAL 5.0 now. The command line version runs fine on the Rainbow. The integrated environment requires CODE BLUE, since it uses I*M BIOS calls. Rainbow-specific CRT and GRAPH units are available here for download. --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: "Over the Rainbow..." (1:106/503) ------------------------------ Date: 11-08-89 (13:35) To: GARY STEBBINS Subject: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KERMIT From: RUDIE SLAUGHTER I been trying out your version MSVRB1C of Kermit 2.32A for the Rainbow. Althou the printer support works, I think you have installed the transparent printing and echo printing backwards. What little documentation I can find indicates that [5i is supposed to turn on transparent printing - in which all characters are sent to the printer port, bypassing all screen filters and escape sequence interpreters, and that the characters are not to be repeated to the screen; and that [?5i is supposed to turn on non-transparent, auto or echo printing - in which after a character is thrown up on the screen, it is echoed to the printer port. From what I encountered in running MSVRB1C, these sequences have appare been flipped. I would appreciate confirmation (or refutation) of this finding and if confirm would appreciate patch instructions to MSVRB1C to unflip the sequences. Thanks again for your work in patching up MSVRB so that it incorporates modem and printer support for the Rainbow. --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1 ------------------------------ Date: 11-08-89 (13:46) To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: KERMIT From: RUDIE SLAUGHTER Yes, there is a test version of MS-Kermit 2.32/A which incorporates modem and printer support for the RAINBOW. It can be found as MSVRB1C.ARC on the Glacier Peak and Silver Bullet boards. --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1 ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 (23:28) To: RUDIE SLAUGHTER Subject: RE: KERMIT From: GARY STEBBINS RS>Are there any KERMIT users out there? I'm to use version RS>2.32A on my Rainbow 100B. I can connect to our VAX and everything RS>is cool until I try to print to the Rainbow's attached printer. RS> I can't seem to get KERMIT to recognize the ^[[5i VT1xx route Well, you found the MS-Kermit/Rainbow bug/feature/shortcoming. The real MS-Kermit V2.32/A doesn't suppport modem control of printer control. The ^F2 does toggle printer on/off, if that will work for you. But, have I got a deal for you... I have modified MS-Kermit/RB to fix the modem control problems (have you noticed HANGUP doesn't hang up?) and, just a couple weeks ago, a partial fix of the printer control functions. This new version identifies itself thusly: Rainbow (18-Oct-1989gbs) Kermit-MS: 2.32/A 21 Jan 1989 Copyright (C) Trustees of Columbia University 1982, 1989. and can be down-loaded or FReq'd as MSVRB1C.ARC from Glacier Peak Rainbow. I've sent the changes to Joe Doupnik, and he said the changes should be incorporated into the next version of MS-Kermit, V3.0, due out "soon". Hope this helps. The .ARC file doesn't currently have a description of the changes I've made - I guess I should include that. Also, be forewarned, I haven't had many people testing it. I believe I haven't introduced any bugs, but feedback and bug reports are welcome. -gary- --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 (23:36) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: V20 CHIP From: GARY STEBBINS FM>BTW, did you ever try using an 8MHz V-20 chip in the Rainbow? FM> We just replaced all the motherboards in our PCs, and I have FM>a couple of the 8MHz chips available for use elsewhere. They FM>are interchangeable with the 5MHz chip in the PC, and they seem FM>to give slightly better performance. The Rainbow clock runs the CPU at 4.77MHz. Changing the chip doesn't make the clock run any faster. Any V20 chip that is rated at or above the 4.77MHz should work fine in the Rainbow, and a faster chip won't gain you anything (just drain your pocket a little more, but I expect the $$ difference between the 5- and 8-MHz V20 chips is negligible). Generally, the way a chip is rated for speed is (slight liberties taken in this explanation) when the chips fall off the end of the assemply line, they test them at different clock speeds. When they find the speed at which it fails, they pull out the next lower speed stamp and stamp that number on the puppy. In other words, an 8MHz and a 5MHz chip are manufactured exactl the same way - no differences in the mask or anything. The 8MHz chip just tested a little better than the 5MHz chip. -gary- --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 (23:45) To: DAVID STRICKLER Subject: RE: HD DISKS IN RAINBOW From: GARY STEBBINS DS>I use AT disks on a regualr basis. Most of the box works. Some DS>don't. Those that don't become AT disks in my VAXmate! The Rainbow is designed to use disks with the same coercivity as the standard IBM diskettes. The HD disks (1.2MB) have a higher magnetic coercivity, and the Rainbow RX50 drives aren't designed to write to these disks. The write current probably isn't strong enough to reliably "flip" the magnetic fields in the HD disks. This might make your data fade with time. I wouldn't trust using HD disks in my Rainbow - it won't hurt the Rainbow, but you might find your data missing at a later time. -gary- --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 (23:50) To: GARY STEBBINS Subject: RE: V20 CHIP From: GARY STEBBINS I see your question has already been answered... But, since I spent so long writing MY answer, I won't delete it. ;-) --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 11-08-89 (05:46) To: GARY STEBBINS Subject: RE: KERMIT From: RUDIE SLAUGHTER Thanks for the tip. I'm going to get MSVRB1C and try it out. Will let you know if I have any complaints. --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 11-07-89 (05:42) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: COLOR MONITOR FOR RAI From: DAN OREILLY I bought a used VR241 for my Rainbow for $250 thru Newman Computer Exchange (sorry, I don't have the number handy). Good folks to deal with, and they guarantee all their stuff. DanO --- QuickBBS v2.04 * Origin: The CS-DEPOT BBS System (719)550-9305 (1:128/58) ------------------------------