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From: cohen@sunybcs.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Alexander Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: ATM was ATM and HP LaserJet
Summary: 'nuff said
Keywords: ATM, flames and accusations
Message-ID: <13156@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>
Date: 12 Nov 89 14:17:32 GMT
References: <5907@shlump.nac.dec.com> <2046@network.ucsd.edu> <1432@adobe.UUCP> <13126@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> <1443@adobe.UUCP>
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In article <1443@adobe.UUCP> bezanson@adobe.UUCP (Brian Bezanson) writes:

>ATM is a driver. If you meant that Adobe write print drivers for
>every printer made, and still give it to you for $99 (~$57 mail order) then
>all I can do is smile :-) You tell me that you don't own ATM, yet you've
>done all these tests and say it is so bad (may I ask where you got your copy
>of ATM). Since you never bought ATM, then you got what you paid for.
>Registered owners of ATM have a manual and read me file that give tips on
>getting better spacing, speed, and they are our most prized asset. Their
>problems are Adobe's, and Adobe is working to fix those problems.

	Hey, wait a minute, when did I ever say that I didn't buy it?  I
received it from MacConnection on their first day of shipping it!  I just
said I'm thinking of sending it back or selling it it to somebody with a
laserwriter who might need the admittedly improved screen displays.  Don't
accuse me of stealing!

	I actually read the manual and the large number of corrections in
the file on the disk, while it peaked my curiousity about the Fractional
widths problem, it did not adequately explain the difficulties.

>My personal feelings here (and others will probably agree) is that you
>can't please everyone - but you can always try. You blame Adobe because 
>they didn't fix limitations with Apple's software or commercial applications. 
>
	You are right, you can't please everybody, but I'm not blaming
adobe for not fixing limitation with Apple's or other's software, so much as
blaming Adobe for the imperfections of its product. The printer driver it
is advertised to work with, namely the Imagewriter driver, is not fully
compatible with ATM. Too bad.

	I said this was my last flame, but I didn't like the implications in
your posting and I could not let it go unaddressed.

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Alexander J. Cohen
SUNY at Buffalo Dept. of Computer Science.

cohen@cs.buffalo.edu
cohen@sunybcs.bitnet
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