Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!dino!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!p.cs.uiuc.edu!gillies From: gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Is the Mac II really dead? Message-ID: <126900101@p.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 13 Nov 89 17:32:27 GMT References: <1035@dali> Lines: 23 Nf-ID: #R:dali:1035:p.cs.uiuc.edu:126900101:000:975 Nf-From: p.cs.uiuc.edu!gillies Nov 12 22:29:00 1989 I own a mac II, and don't see it as a "dead" machine. I think some people dumped their Mac II system units to get IIcx units. I think some of those people took a bath and might be unhappy. For the word processing I do, it's not visibly slower. The only speed difference is in crystal quest (which is easier 8-) ). The Mac II has no 68851, but no upgrades are necessary to run vaporware! (system 7.0) The Mac II has no 1.4Mb floppy, but for $400 I can live with a few extra disk swaps during backups. The 1.4Mb drive seems to write just as slowly as an 800K drive (an engineering mistake, in my opinion). My machine also has a nice, burned-in 80Mb 5" Quantum disk, with time-tested grease inside. After 1 year, I tapped the video cable to feed power to my modem. Some day, I'll get a quieter fan. These improvements are only possible with an expired warranty 8-). It's nice not to be on the "bleeding edge" of technology (Apple users seem to bleed more than most).