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From: graham@fuel.dec.com (kris graham)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: OpenWindows deficiencies (was Re: xdm problems)
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Date: 16 Nov 89 00:59:47 GMT
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In article <6447@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>, david@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV
(David E. Smyth) writes:

> I think it is comical how they call it OpenWindows.  Its exactly as
> stupid as DEC calling their byte-swapped MIPS machines "open."
> 

I am shocked that you believe your own silly hype!
Is this what comp.windows.x is about?  Should we sit 
mute and read such nonsense?

I don't see how you  can link hardware technology with openess
without expalining what you mean.  Digital's RISC machines
are little endian  like the Sun 386 and the millions of all Intel-based
PC machines sold to-date.  Does that make them un-"open"?
Making a piece of technology *available* is what really makes that
technology open.   I am not claiming that everything is perfect and
dandy....but, your noise evades reality.

> 
> OpenWindows, SPARC, s-bus, sun-specific VME, ...
> DECwindows, byte-swapped MIPS, sue-anybody-who-tries-to-use-it-bus, ...

Sun and DEC has made available the sources for their toolkits.....so I
do not see the point of your diatribe.

> PS: Is there going to be a GOOD implementation of X11R4 on EISA-based
> 386/486 SystemVR4 machines?
> PPS: Is there going to be a GOOD implementation of SVR4 on EISA-based
> 386/486 machines which will support DOS applications with individual X
> windows instead of taking over the entire screen resource?

The contradiction and ignorance dispalyed here is disturbing!  
Who own  386/486 SystemVR4 machines?  Glasnost? ;^)
Or, all this stuff is manna from heaven?!


Christopher Graham          
Digital Equipment Corp            
Ultrix Resource Center                                             
New York City