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From: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: A proposal for a new voting scheme
Keywords: Vote, Alien, STV, MAUVE, 100 NOs
Message-ID: <2812@cpoint.UUCP>
Date: 9 Nov 89 18:23:32 GMT
References: <21699@gryphon.COM> <2784@cpoint.UUCP> <2785@cpoint.UUCP> <1989Nov8.014837.21854@alembic.acs.com>
Reply-To: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells)
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.
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In article <1989Nov8.014837.21854@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) writes:
>There are two major problems here. The first is that it should be possible
>for someone to vote for the group without voting for any of the names. The
>current consensus seems to be that most people don't really care about
>what name the group winds up with as long as it gets created.

This is a good point.  Perhaps there should be an entry for simply YES or NO 
to the entire thing (although that could easily be accomplished by putting
YES or NO in each proposal - I doubt there will ever be so many that this 
would be a major chore).

>This permits one of the obvious STV pathologies unless the changes from
>the previous paragraph are incorporated: it is possible to have a vote
>in which several hundred people vote YES, no one casts a NO vote,
>yet no newsgroup is created because no name received more than 100
>YES votes.

I think that this is actually a place where this proposal is significantly
better than STV.  If people are actually voting properly (ie: everything that
they would find acceptable is voted YES), the only way that you could have
all proposals fail is if each vote taken independantly would fail.  If that
is the case, then the group should not be created.  Otherwise, MAUVE is
simply choosing between the options that would have passed, picking the 
one that would have had the 'best' vote.
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