Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!datapg!com50!com2serv!craig From: craig@com2serv.C2S.MN.ORG (Craig S. Wilson) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: You want one that fits in 25 lines? Message-ID: <3004@com50.C2S.MN.ORG> Date: 13 Nov 89 12:41:59 GMT References: <45326@looking.on.ca> Sender: nntp@com50.C2S.MN.ORG Reply-To: craig@com2serv.c2s.mn.org (Craig S. Wilson) Organization: Com Squared Systems, Mendota Heights, MN Lines: 50 In article <45326@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >Some have challenged me to meet my own test of a simple effective >creation scheme that can be clearly explained in 25 lines. Here is one. >(It contains elements of past proposals by others and myself) > ------------------------------------- >New hierarchy: "trial." Any serious(*) group can be created there, name >chosen by any experienced netter. (It's not the final name) Is "trial" going to get worldwide distribution or will many sites limit it because it may carry non-productive proto-newsgroups at some point. Other than starting with a clean slate, how would "trial" differ from "alt"? > >If, at the end of 5-6 months, the group has at least 1 reader for every >two machines that carry it, it is moved into the main hierarchies. If it >does not, it is rmgrouped. High readership allows transfer in < 5 months. > Please clarify "high readership". And, how about allowing for topical, relatively short-lived groups to extend beyond the 6 months? That way they wouldn't have to get promoted, only to go dormant a few months later. Also, will there be restrictions on someone restarting a group that has just been expired due to low activity? If not, the net'll end up with a hierarchy akin to alt.* except for the need to restart the group occassionally. The difference would be in distribution. >No discussion. No argument. Just posting and reading, which is what USENET is. A lot of USENET is about pissing and moaning. > --------------------------------------- >Final Name: Decide that *in the group*, although I would be very surprised if > an experienced netter or two couldn't make up a good name in advance. >1 reader per 2 machines: If it can't get that, it's a waste of net bandwidth. >-- >Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473 I could go along with this proposal. However, I believe there needs to be a few more lines of rules laid down. Twenty-five lines is a nice arbitrary limit, but I would rather see 26, if needed, to plug the holes. Craig S. Wilson | Democracy |{amdahl|hpda}!bungia!com50!craig Com Squared Systems, Inc | is not a |craig@c2s.mn.org 2520 Pilot Knob Road | spectator |(612) 452-9522 voice Mendota Heights MN 55120 | sport. |(612) 452-3607 fax