Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!alembic!csu From: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: You want one that fits in 25 lines? Message-ID: <1989Nov15.063123.2360@alembic.acs.com> Date: 15 Nov 89 06:31:23 GMT References: <45326@looking.on.ca> <41800006@inmet> <46614@looking.on.ca> <5170@ncar.ucar.edu> Reply-To: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Organization: Alembic Computer Services, McLean VA Lines: 48 UUCP-Path: uunet!alembic!csu In article <5170@ncar.ucar.edu> woods@handies.UCAR.EDU (Greg Woods) writes: >In article <46614@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >>I would be willing to say *all* names be chosen by a disinterested experienced >>netter, but other people seem to resist that. > > I think that's a fine idea (except make it 3-5 people). But you always insist >on finding people who don't have strong opinions on the subject of naming. >I claim such a person doesn't exist. Anyone who would be willing to volunteer >the time, and take the inevitable flames and abuse that would go along with >such a position, is going to have strong opinions on how groups should be >named. That's why a small group would be necessary, to overcome possible >strong biases of a single person that might lead to a bizarre decision in >a particular case. Instead of randomly speculating about this, why don't you try it? Line up a fairly heterogeneous group of five people and go through the last few "controversial" votes, and see how it turns out. I assume there isn't much point in trying this with non-controversial groups. Among the groups to be considered, I'd suggest: soc.sex comp.women comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac sci.skeptic soc.culture.{china/chinese} soc.culture.asean sci.groupware sci.aquaria rec.aquarium Also, I'd suggest that you post the membership of the New Improved Trial Newsgroup Name Cabal before the deliberation starts, and once it's over, each member should post his rationale (dissenting or affirming) for the name finally chosen for each of the trial groups. Let's get a taste of what's being proposed here. Or, if you feel that absence of discussion in news.groups (and except in a couple of cases, knowledge of the actual outcome) would influence the Cabal members, issue advisory pronunciamentos on the next five or ten actual newsgroup votes. If I remember correctly, there are at least six or seven ongoing votes/calls for discussion right now. As for picking the members, how about simply calling for volunteers and picking the ones who haven't expressed strong positions on naming issues? -- Dave Mack