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From: gwydion@tavi.rice.edu (Basalat Ali Raja)
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Subject: Re: voting results -- soc.religion.islam
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Date: 16 Nov 89 02:02:55 GMT
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In article <968@sequoia.UUCP> dewey@sequoia.UUCP (Dewey Henize) writes:

>Apparently there's more problem than that.  I know I tried several times
>to vote on this.  No response, no bounce, and I'm not in the list.

I believe the rules state that the vote must arrive at the vote-takers
machine if it is to be considered valid.  I cannot be held responsible
for votes that I did not get, as I am sure you will agree.

I did suggest that you attempt contacting one of the moderators if you 
had trouble getting to me, and I would attempt to get a path to you.
I also acknowledged all entires and in my call for votes posting I 
said that if you did not recieve an acknowledgement, you would know that 
I had not received your vote; as there are three moderators in totally
different part of the country, your mail should have gotten SOMEWHERE...

>votes.  I have a lot of trouble believing that this issue generated such
>low turnout after all the discussion, and I also really have a problem
>with the addresses.  Scanning over it, there are very few that aren't
>internet sites, as if the various uucp sites didn't get there at all.

That is possible...  I don't know what to do about it; I am sure there are
a lot of people reading this who do, however... :-)

>]I have not included any forwarded votes for which I was unable 
>]to contact the original voters; there were a few of these,
>]however all of these people voted yes (there were no forwarded
>]no votes).   Generally speaking, though, if you received a 
>
>By the way, what's this about forwarded votes?  I thought a person voted,
>not asked someone else to vote.  Again, not a cry of FRAUD, but I'd really
>like to hear about this innovation.

As I understand it, votes received at my machine ONLY were valid votes.
Some people were unable to send their votes to me - they got a friend
to forward it for them; I wasn't sure about whether they counted or not.
So I left them out; as ALL of them were "yes" votes, it would not 
invalidate the result.

Although I appreciate your generosity, to be honest with you, I do not 
think you could shout "FRAUD" on this one - I do not know of any rule
or guideline which states that a person cannot solicit votes from friends
for a newsgroup that he/she approves/disapproves of.  I made no such
solicitations personally, but I do not see why that should stop anyone 
else...