Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!l.cc.purdue.edu!cik From: cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Classification; it is difficult Message-ID: <1722@l.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 18 Nov 89 15:43:55 GMT References: <36339@apple.Apple.COM> <10119@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> <36343@apple.Apple.COM> <1989Nov11.002535.21243@world.std.com> <255F14A9.16035@ateng.com> <1989Nov15.160912.8148@world.std.com> <3969@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <1989Nov17.173402.21820@world.std.com> Reply-To: cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) Distribution: usa Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department Lines: 42 In article <1989Nov17.173402.21820@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes: > >From: brnstnd@stealth.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) <>> The Library of Congress probably has <>> hundreds of thousands of subject classifications and I haven't heard <>> anyone calling the nation's library systems useless. >> >>Because most books are put into the right sections. In other words, the >>official subject divisions are easy to understand and widely respected. >>USENET groups don't work that way. > >I bet you'd never get a librarian to agree to that statement. It's all >ultimately a fuzzy, humanist endeavor. Which is fine. > >Cataloguing is a very difficult specialty, and worse, where something >seems to fit changes over time (not that it gets changed, but it can >seem very out of place twenty years later, where would you go to find >early books on cognitive modelling? Psychology? Neurobiology? Math? >Physiology? Philosophy? Computer Science????) I would agree that most books are put into the right sections, but not boast about it. Also, I know of no library catalog system which has cross-classification. Posting to multiple newsgroups, or something like that, is necessary. Suppose that I want to look through our library to find the books to put on reserve for a graduate course in mathematical statistics. There are the standard classifications for probability and mathematical statistics. But many of the books are in the social science statistics section (and many of them have no social science whatever, and are straight mathematical statistics). There are also many engineering texts which are mainly mathematical statistics. There may be good ones under economic statistics or medical statistics. The ones in engineering and medicine may not even be classified under the statistics subsection of those fields. Suppose that a librarian gets a book entitled "Elementary Theory of Cylindric Algebras" to catalog. What are the chances it will be catalogued under mathematical logic? -- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907 Phone: (317)494-6054 hrubin@l.cc.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet, UUCP)