Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!ofc!hl.rogers From: hl.rogers@ofc.Columbia.NCR.COM (hl.rogers) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: GROUP CREATION GUIDELINES - A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH Keywords: Let's get organized Message-ID: <417@ofc.Columbia.NCR.COM> Date: 18 Nov 89 16:04:07 GMT Reply-To: hl.rogers@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM (H. L. Rogers) Followup-To: news.groups Organization: NCR E&M Columbia, Columbia, SC Lines: 37 I have been silently reading about the group creation controversy until I am now very confused about what problems are to be solved. When such confusion occurs in a scientific/engineering environment we usually remember, "Let's get back to the basics." That way, we accomplish the following things in the sequential order indicated: 1. review and understand the original problems in the system; 2. determine the success or failure of the current solution (the guidelines) by examing the new problems created and the old problems not solved; 3. extrapolate new problems that may logically occur as the system changes (brainstorm); 4. determine changes needed in the solution; 5. implement the changes; 6. measure the results to determine success/failure. I have seen a lot of steps 2, 3, and 4 in the controversy, but have not seen a clear statement of step 1 (if there was such an article, I missed it (sorry)). This may be heresy, but we may not even need guidelines if a review of the original problems showed none! I know that is not the case; I am just making a point. Would it be possible to order the discussion in the manner I have suggested? If so, will you start the discussion Greg, with a clear statement of the original problems that the guidelines tried to solve? The net can respond with discussion until we agree on the list of problems, then we can go to step 2, etc. This method will result in a lengthy debate, but it should provide an acceptable result to the majority. Greg? -- HL Rogers (hl.rogers@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM) Me? Speak for my company?? HA!