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From: greg@lawnet.LawNet.Com (Gregory G. Petersen)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: clarinet??????
Message-ID: <340@lawnet.LawNet.Com>
Date: 14 Nov 89 04:36:33 GMT
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Reply-To: greg@.LawNet.Com (Gregory G. Petersen)
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In article <14851@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes:
>I must say it is irksome to see these repeated obtusities from Peterson.

Tom -- I wish you spent more time responding to the posting. Your response is
as incorrect as your spelling of my name.

>Does he know how to examine a news logfile?  Does he know how to read a
>sys file?  Does he know who his news administrator is?  If he is his own
>news administrator, does he know where to find a good book on managing
>Usenet and UUCP?  (The Nutshell series would be my recommendation.)

Answers, in order presented: yes yes yes yes 

>I mean, COME ON.
>

Tom -- you come on. What you need is a book on debate and discussion.

>You cannot get clari.* articles (non crossposted, just pure clari.*)
>unless your newsfeed is feeding them to you.  Judging from the Path in
>Peterson's article, the feed site may be 'texbell!letni'.  They must be
>feeding 'clari' in order for clari articles to arrive downstream.  If
>they are, they are in violation of the clarinet agreement.  If *their*
>news administrator doesn't know how to control his system, he should be
>goosed via net mail.  (Actually Brad has an interest in doing this since
>it's his assets being mis-distributed.)
>

We figured that someone was leaking clari.* somewhere along the line a long
time ago. I have grave doubt that letni or texbell is leaking clari* to
California (since we don't get a full feed from Texas) and I agree with
the other postings that *all* is a proper feed if desired - but not from
Texas to California. I think that the administrators at texbell or letni
may disagree with your view that "[t]hey" are feeding the offending articles
to lawnet. As to "goosing" a newws administrator - that was done long ago
here - the offense has ceased.
>Downstream sites without 'clari' in their sys files will simply end up
>with articles in 'junk'.  If this is what is happening at lawnet, then
>it's the feed site's fault and has NOTHING TO DO with Brad!  If Peterson
>really sort of knows this but figures it's a worthy cause flaming Brad
>anyway, then he should ***DO IT IN MAIL*** and not keep this tiresome
>and illiterate non-discussion going in news.sysadmin.
>-- 

Tom -- the discussions with Brad ended -- in email -- and I believe he
solved the problem. What I object to is self appoint know it alls who
continue this discussion with such comments as this -- which don't solve the
problems -- but just add to them. 




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