Path: utzoo!censor!isgtec!robert
From: robert@isgtec.UUCP (Robert Osborne)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Community College Teachers on strike
Message-ID: <207@isgtec.UUCP>
Date: 13 Nov 89 17:07:41 GMT
References: <606@alias.UUCP> <1989Nov11.143948.15365@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <18113@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
Reply-To: robert@isgtec.UUCP (Robert Osborne)
Distribution: ont
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga, Ontario
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In article <18113@watdragon.waterloo.edu> mdhutton@violet.waterloo.edu (Mike Hutton) writes:
>I'm not so sure about the collage strike, partly because I am ignorant of
>most of the details.  I can't really understand why college teachers would
>make less than high-school teachers.
Better yet, why do carpenters, brick layers, GM assembly line workers,
etc. make more than teachers and nurses?  Like all occuptions where there
is also a non-monetary reason to work (teaching, nursing, school board
trustee's (uhmmm, bad example :-)) the employers tend to rip off the
workers.  There is also a reluctance on the part of the public to pay
these people more:  "Teachers get summers off so their salary should
lowered accordingly".  This leads to situations like the current nursing
crises (look in the careers section, practically every hospital is looking
for nurses).  I firmly believe that nurses and teachers are *grossly*
underpaid,  I certainly want the person teaching or healing my children
to be making more than person slopping mortar on the bricks of my house!

>If so, why is there not a shortage
>of college teachers? (ie. they *should* obviously be well qualified to teach
>high-school??).  Is there a college teacher to answer this question?
I think that most college teacher's have industry back grounds and have
decided to teach because they enjoy teaching.  I don't think they would
necessarily have to be qualified to teach high school. (I want the person
teaching X-ray technicians to be a VERY competent X-ray technician, not
somebody who just got out of teachers college).

>However, just as an employer could decide me to not be worth what I think
>I am, and tell me to shove it; if the membership is as-a-whole is not worth
>it's salt, I don't see any reason for the management to be required to 
>retain it (Are you listening Canada Post?  Too bad it doesn't really work
>that way).  
I think all of Canada Post, provincial, and federal civil services should
be fired and the useful 50% hired back.  I really hate the attitude that
if somebody hires you they are somehow indebted to you for life (sort of
an "indentured master" :-).

Rob.
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