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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Community College Teachers on strike
Message-ID: <1989Nov14.111855.27329@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Date: 14 Nov 89 16:18:55 GMT
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>flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>>Why do people always blame the union for protracted strikes?  Certainly it
>>must at least sometimes be the management's fault!  Of course the union could
>>end the strike at any time by giving in on all issues, but so could the
>>management.

riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) writes:
>Is it possibly related to the fact that it is usually the *union* that
>proposes new working conditions which favour itself, rather than *management*
>that proposes new working conditions favouring itself?

I don't think this is true.  Often strikes are the result of the management
proposing CHANGES which are bad for the workers.  For example, in the Toronto
TTC strike one of the biggest issues was that of the management INTRODUCING
part-time workers.  The management wanted to change the existing situation, and
the union wanted it to say the same.  This was one of the big strike issues,
and without it I don't think the workers would have gone on strike.

ajr