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From: mdhutton@violet.waterloo.edu (Mike Hutton)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Community College Teachers on strike
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Date: 16 Nov 89 06:27:52 GMT
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In article <1989Nov14.232239.5289@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> gbs@gpu.utcs.UUCP (Gideon Sheps) writes:
>In article <18113@watdragon.waterloo.edu> mdhutton@violet.waterloo.edu (Mike Hutton) writes:
>>I'm not so sure about the collage strike, partly because I am ignorant of
>>most of the details.  I can't really understand why college teachers would
>>make less than high-school teachers.  If so, why is there not a shortage
>>of college teachers? (ie. they *should* obviously be well qualified to teach
>>high-school??).  Is there a college teacher to answer this question?
>
>Have you perhaps applied for a job as a high school teacher recently ?
>If so.. where was it - many people are currently looking for *the* 
>opening in Ontario.
>
>Ok.. I exagerate slightly... but only slightly.

What are you getting at, I only see two implications of the statement
1. Some College teachers are high-school teachers who couldn't get a job?
2. College teachers wishing to teach high-school are not as qualified
   as people graduating from teacher's college, and can't compete for jobs.

But neither of these could be true.  I am *assuming* that to be a 
college teacher, one would be more highly educated and qualified, 
thus granting easier access to teacher's college.

I don't see any barriers to college teachers entering high-school 
positions, (besides not wanting to - in which case maybe they are 
choosing their position?).  Maybe the high-school teachers union 
is too strong and refuses to let more qualified people in :^)

Regarding what someone else said about salaries, it does seem like 
college teachers are trying to surpass University professors when they
want upwards of 50 000 pa.  And they don't have research responsibilities.

BTW: I have heard that Southern Ontario is now approaching a shortage of
teachers, as enrollments are climbing - contrary to the way it has been
the last several years.  Can anyone confirm or dispute this?

Mike.
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Michael Hutton
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