Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: PCB vs. wirewrap Message-ID: <8544@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 13 Nov 89 22:26:33 GMT References: <852@carroll1.UUCP> Distribution: usa Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 38 in article <852@carroll1.UUCP>, dnewton@carroll1.UUCP (Dave 'Post No Nicknames' Newton) says: >>> Oh, can anyone recommend a cheap auto-routing PCB design package? > Well, Tango PC w/ autoroute costs around $1000, so I'm looking for > something between $500-$1500. Pro-Board for the Amiga is about $450.00 list, but it doesn't have what I'd consider a real autorouting facility. What the call "autoroute" I'd call basically an "auto-stitch". If you're stitching up a bus or some relatively regular network, you can go into "autoroute" mode and click from pad to pad while it does the routing between the pads. Works OK for this simple stuff, but it's no good for anything very diagonal or long and complicated. What I call real autoroute is what we get on the dedicated Calay machines here -- dump it in the autorouter when you go home, and next morning it's done, 100% routed. Pro-Board also only supports ups to 4 layer boards with no inner-layer traces. It does support surface mount parts. The production-ready output is in Gerber format, though as I recall you can get dot matrix or HPGL output at least for preview. I wrote a review of this one for Amiga Sentry awhile back. It's certainly servicable, but it's not up to the Calay or SciCards level (that's what our PCB layout guys use here at work). Pro-Net takes the same netlist format as Calay. There's also one for the Amiga called PCLO which I haven't looked at yet, though I just got one recently. This was apparently the first one for the Amiga, though I'm not sure if it's still being supported or not (I know it's author is still quite active in the Amiga community, though the company seems to have vanished). I gather they have two versions of PCLO, so this could be the cheapest layout package around, though I doubt there's any form of autorouting. When I check it out I'll be sure to mention it if it's something in the "don't miss" category. > David L. Newton | uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton | The Raging Apostle-- -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough