Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!samsung!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: msmiller@gonzoville.East.Sun.COM (Mark Miller - Sun BOS Contractor) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Battle of Britain kill ratios Message-ID: <11234@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 8 Nov 89 04:41:00 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems, Billerica MA Lines: 29 Approved: military@att.att.com From: msmiller@gonzoville.East.Sun.COM (Mark Miller - Sun BOS Contractor) > > >From: Brian Ross (bxr307@coombs.anu.oz) >The biggest problem in trying to equate the different rate of >kills between the two sides in the war is the different methods >each had of recording kills. The Germans were much more lax >about this and were willing to take the pilots word on the >matter. Check out a book called "The Messerschmitt Aces" (don't have the publisher's name here at work). In it, they show copies of the forms a Luftwaffe pilot needed to fill out to get credit for a kill. He had to tell just about everything - how many rounds, where he hit, damage assesment. He also needed witnesses. Also, unlike the Allied air forces, the Luftwaffe gave no partial kills. It was either full credit or nothing. One of the biggest misconceptions from the war is that the Luftwaffe propped up their claims of air victories. Only years later, when people started taking a more unbiased look at how the Luftwaffe conducted itself did they realize that the claims were true and usually quite well documented. -MSM [mod.note: If you've been following some of the claims I've reported in 50 Years Ago, you'll see that *publically* claimed kills are always exaggerated, by all sides. These propaganda figures are easily confused with the actual accredited kills. - Bill ]